Who wins this Lightweight Tourney?

[Sweet Pea 50]

I wanted to include him terribly but I figured I'd keep it modern.

Don't worry about it, bud.

I've got my rose tinted glasses on, and appreciate you throwing Pea and Manos in the mix.

I'm not going to give you shit over fantasy fights, and forgetting people.


Great thread.

[Roman Moreno]

Really? i think every fighter besides Pacquiao had a chance at Duran. You say Mosley had a weak resume, but Duran who is considered the best lightweight ever doesn't exactly have a list of killers on it either.

First of all lets not compare Mosley resume/LW reign to Duran. Don't even put it in the same sentence. And, if you think there are in any comparable then this convo is done here.

Didn't call his resume weak. I think he could be in the top 25 ATG at LW. Which is a historic division. What I said is that he is arguably one of the most overrated fighters. Because, people always talk about him as a beast, even insinuate that he was somewhat unbeatable. How so? Who did he fight? Duran beat HOF'ers in that weight-class, Duran dominated that weight-class for a decade, Duran cleaned out the division. Mosley didn't even fight the best LW in the division at the time in Stevie Johnston. And, I'm not positive Mosley could have won that fight. I would favor Mosley. But, I would have given "Lil but bad" had a great chance of beating him.

I don't see how Oscar, Pac, JCC, JMM, or Mosley beats Duran. I can see Whitaker beaten him. Floyd always has a chance. No one can say he doesn't. He is a very special talent. But, the only guy I could see beaten Duran out of the guys listed is Whitaker.

[turbotime]

First of all lets not compare Mosley resume/LW reign to Duran. Don't even put it in the same sentence. And, if you think there are in any comparable then this convo is done here.

Didn't call his resume weak. I think he could be in the top 25 ATG at LW. Which is a historic division. What I said is that he is arguably one of the most overrated fighters. Because, people always talk about him as a beast, even insinuate that he was somewhat unbeatable. How so? Who did he fight? Duran beat HOF'ers in that weight-class, Duran dominated that weight-class for a decade, Duran cleaned out the division. Mosley didn't even fight the best LW in the division at the time in Stevie Johnston. And, I'm not positive Mosley could have won that fight. I would favor Mosley. But, I would have given "Lil but bad" had a great chance of beating him.

I don't see how Oscar, Pac, JCC, JMM, or Mosley beats Duran. I can see Whitaker beaten him. Floyd always has a chance. No one can say he doesn't. He is a very special talent. But, the only guy I could see beaten Duran out of the guys listed is Whitaker.

I don't see anyone on Duran's lightweight resume beating Chavez, Delahoya, or Mosley. For being probably the best lightweight, Duran's resume isn't that great.

[turbotime]

Don't worry about it, bud.

I've got my rose tinted glasses on, and appreciate you throwing Pea and Manos in the mix.

I'm not going to give you shit over fantasy fights, and forgetting people.


Great thread.

Thanks man, it's a great division. Ever see any Ike Williams fights? I'd have loved to have seen him and Armstrong go at it. What beasts.

[Roman Moreno]

I don't see anyone on Duran's lightweight resume beating Chavez, Delahoya, or Mosley. For being probably the best lightweight, Duran's resume isn't that great.

Well using that logic I don't see anyone in Mosley or Oscar resume at 135 beating Pac or JMM therefor that means what?

[turbotime]

Well using that logic I don't see anyone in Mosley or Oscar resume at 135 beating Pac or JMM therefor that means what?

it means nothing, which is why I brought it up. Just because you say you can't see Duran losing to those guys doesn't make it so, especially since he had lost to a lesser fighter who was also a coke fiend.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I think Mosley vs Duran at 135 would have been a WAR.

Mosley's chin, hand speed, and power at that weight?

Whomever won, would have known they were in a fight.

[turbotime]

I think Mosley vs Duran at 135 would have been a WAR.

Mosley's chin, hand speed, and power at that weight?

Whomever won, would have known they were in a fight.

Head to Head I'd take Mosley. He was weighing in around 150+ for his lightweight fights. With that speed and power and reach. That's a tall order for ANY lightweight. Which is why Johnston turned the fight down in '98.

[Roman Moreno]

it means nothing, which is why I brought it up.

It means nothing so you brought up a useless logic that holds no weight? Ok.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Head to Head I'd take Mosley. He was weighing in around 150+ for his lightweight fights. With that speed and power and reach. That's a tall order for ANY lightweight. Which is why Johnston turned the fight down in '98.

How about this one?

Manny vs Aaron Pryor at 140?