Comments Thread For: Top Rank vs. Gamboa: The Fine Points of The Lawsuit

[PlayerKiller]

gamboa is looking out for himself like cotto did. toprank is stealing money from all its fighters.this is why both petersons brothers,ortiz,torres,k holt and soto all left toprank. pac should be getting way more than he's making per fight.somebody give arum the thief his money so gamboa can move on.

Stop posting libelous lies or you are out of here.

The Petersons were released from their contracts after suffering losses to Rios and Bradley.

Holt was released after suffering numerous defeats.

Soto's contract with Top Rank expired years ago, he left Zanfer and Zanfer is suing him in Mexico for a contract breach.

Cotto fulfilled his entire contract and became a free agent and PRAISED Top Rank afterwards.

You just made that floyd fan look ******.

[edgarg]

This has been a concern of mine all along. And after reading the article from the link BIGPOPPAPUMP provided, another concern of mine has been stoked: that Gamboa's lawyer might be incompetent/shady.

It sure seems that Floyd has his hand in this fiasco. The court documents don't name the "poachers," but the Mayweather group is probably who they're referring to. If Floyd got Gamboa into this mess, he'd better help him out.

It's too soon to say if the lawyer is incompetent, however we may assume that Gamboa would most likely go to a lawyer who has reasonable fees compared to the top guns. Also maybe that lawyers, when a new client arrives, do their "lawyer-thing", which is to look important, listen carefully, say "don't worry", dash off a few possible legal positions for Gamboa to assume, project assurance, and behind the eyes, be busy figuring out just how much he can boost the fees up to before he suggests that there needs to be arbitration.......

Naturally, I don't know that this will positively happen, we'll have to wait and see.

[Bullrider]

I never saw the same hate at a promoter in the case of Bradley when he was ducking Khan. He joined Top Rank and not one objected to it. It's even a big thumbs up. Seems this is about protecting Gamboa's association with Mayweather. Go figure.

[Lineal Champ]

Arum's promotional experience is tied to his legal expertise. I don't know what the law says regarding Gamboa's specific situation. No disrespect, but I don't think you do, either. However, it's entirely possible that any previous "i's" not dotted and any "t's" not crossed might make whatever agreements came later null and void. And Bob hammering away at his underlings doesn't guarantee anything, either.

Just because Top Rank spells everything out so perfectly in their lawsuit doesn't mean that's they did everything perfectly. That is what lawyers do, they make their side appear right. The same can be said about Gamboa's lawyer. We'll see soon enough what's what. Until then, I prefer to remain neutral.

I know exactly what the law says in Gamboa's situation. It is very clear.
In Gamboa situation a bilateral offer was made. This is one that expects ACCEPTANCE by a promise from the offeree (Gamboa). A bilateral contract IS FORMED when offeree ACCEPTS with a promise.
TR says "Will you agree to fight Rios for an advance of $70,000 and purse of X amount"
Gamboa accepts with his promise to fight Rios, promote the fight in Miami and various cities, and he takes his advance.
A bilateral contract is formed.

TR has a solid case and Gamboa's lawyer is probably realizing this as he reads the lawsuit.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I know exactly what the law says in Gamboa's situation. It is very clear.
In Gamboa situation a bilateral offer was made. This is one that expects ACCEPTANCE by a promise from the offeree (Gamboa). A bilateral contract IS FORMED when offeree ACCEPTS with a promise.
TR says "Will you agree to fight Rios for an advance of $70,000 and purse of X amount"
Gamboa accepts with his promise to fight Rios, promote the fight in Miami and various cities, and he takes his advance.
A bilateral contract is formed.

TR has a solid case and Gamboa's lawyer is probably realizing this as he reads the lawsuit.

Even tho Top Rank is throwing out this $70k advance out there out of nowhere I still don't believe it. How come we never heard of this advance before till now? All TR was going by was, "Gamboa agreed to this and that." They never mentioned any advance.

[Atreyu Khalil]

I know exactly what the law says in Gamboa's situation. It is very clear.
In Gamboa situation a bilateral offer was made. This is one that expects ACCEPTANCE by a promise from the offeree (Gamboa). A bilateral contract IS FORMED when offeree ACCEPTS with a promise.
TR says "Will you agree to fight Rios for an advance of $70,000 and purse of X amount"
Gamboa accepts with his promise to fight Rios, promote the fight in Miami and various cities, and he takes his advance.
A bilateral contract is formed.

TR has a solid case and Gamboa's lawyer is probably realizing this as he reads the lawsuit.

Where is the proof that shows the advance of 70K was in fact issued for the Gamboa-Rios fight?

I wonder if Arum has a contract or agreement (non verbal) for the 70k advance or did he just write a check or hand gamboa 70k in a suitcase?

[edgarg]

How do we know it was properly executed? We're just a bunch of guys on the net. Where is the evidence of agreements? Word of mouth? Third party allegations?

Well, if we don't want to resemble chickens without head's, we must go by what is published as legitimate news on these pages. Since the various clauses in the Top Rank suit are public property, if they were falsified or otherwise incorrect, within 10 minutes they'd have been denounced. So far they haven't been questioned....except by such as you, who really knows nothing.

I'd be happy to see this matter cleared up. I don't like to see the top promotion company maligned when going about it's lawful business, and I also don't like to see an ignorant fighter being ruined for life because he was foolish enough to listen to a malicious tongue with mischief intended. We have too much trouble in this world already. Top Rank are actually very forebearing in these matters and have repeatedly shown that they are more than willing to arbitrate, and make concessions.

A case in point is dropping the recent suit against Oscar because it had driven him into a sanitarium for rehabilitation, and he'd profusely apologised. Arum was very lenient with Oscar who tried to ruin him.

[edgarg]

Where is the proof that shows the advance of 70K was in fact issued for the Gamboa-Rios fight?

I wonder if Arum has a contract or agreement (non verbal) for the 70k advance or did he just write a check or hand gamboa 70k in a suitcase?

That you talk about "suitcase" money (a la Don King) shows you are not serious and are just being crotchety. It looks a if you don't like to believe that Top Rank might have a valid case here.......

[crold1]

Even tho Top Rank is throwing out this $70k advance out there out of nowhere I still don't believe it. How come we never heard of this advance before till now? All TR was going by was, "Gamboa agreed to this and that." They never mentioned any advance.

MAybe you didn't hear of it because cash advances like this are common as hell and are only of material interest because of the events here?

[jbp23]

I know exactly what the law says in Gamboa's situation. It is very clear.
In Gamboa situation a bilateral offer was made. This is one that expects ACCEPTANCE by a promise from the offeree (Gamboa). A bilateral contract IS FORMED when offeree ACCEPTS with a promise.
TR says "Will you agree to fight Rios for an advance of $70,000 and purse of X amount"
Gamboa accepts with his promise to fight Rios, promote the fight in Miami and various cities, and he takes his advance.
A bilateral contract is formed.

TR has a solid case and Gamboa's lawyer is probably realizing this as he reads the lawsuit.

Now we have someone looking up Wikipedia and reads something they do not understand, but what this person reads sounds "very legal" so he copies and pastes it here and decides he knows exactly what type of contract was formed.