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  • #41
    Originally posted by Superflo777 View Post
    Wlad fought in America multiple times and never got a point deduction because of holdig as far as I remember. And Tyson actually told of the two fights against Holy that he was holding and leaning on him with his superior strength and even pushing him away from attacks. It's totally common in boxing.
    Being common doesn't make it fair or right. People say Haye fought like a coward but Wlad using tactics that are against the rules to not get hit is perfectly fine is bull****. Breaking the rules to avoid getting hit is more cowardly.

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    • #42
      The fact that Haye fans equate survival with success just goes to show that an intelligent argument cannot be had on the subject.

      He made it the distance and he landed a few punches and he lived to talk about it. He fought the exact same fight as Sultan Ibragimov who was roundly trashed for his effort, only Haye did a little better job with the "stink-it-out" strategy than the Russian did.

      Of course Ibragimov didn't do any of the pre-fight bull**** to make his effort look all the more pathetic.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
        The fact that Haye fans equate survival with success just goes to show that an intelligent argument cannot be had on the subject.

        He made it the distance and he landed a few punches and he lived to talk about it. He fought the exact same fight as Sultan Ibragimov who was roundly trashed for his effort, only Haye did a little better job with the "stink-it-out" strategy than the Russian did.

        Of course Ibragimov didn't do any of the pre-fight bull**** to make his effort look all the more pathetic.
        Well thank you!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
          The only reason Haye is on the radar is because of his mouth, not because of his boxing ability. Haye hasn't done **** for over a year, and he's supposed to get a title shot uncontested? **** THAT! He should fight someone before he even thinks about fighting Vitali. Haye is much more bark than he is bite.
          No one else who wants a shot has done a thing worth a damn either, at least he is somewhat interesting of a challenger so its the best we can get until a serious challenge comes along. I know its not right but there is nothing better that can be done at HW.

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          • #45
            6'8" 250lb David Price might an interesting fight for eithe Klit

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            • #46
              Originally posted by fightfan2007 View Post
              6'8" 250lb David Price might an interesting fight for eithe Klit
              How **** is the HW division when all people can come up with for challengers are domestic level prospects.

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              • #47
                i think ur right

                but still an interesting fight tho

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                • #48
                  The worst era in heavyweight boxing history? I just love to keep hearing that bs, what because they are white europeans it is the worst era? Ok so the K brothers have beaten/fought:

                  Ray Mercer
                  Jameel McCline
                  Chris Byrd
                  Monte Barrett
                  Corrie Sanders
                  Lamon Brewster
                  Sam Peter
                  Hasim Rahman
                  Lennox Lewis
                  Ruslan Chagaev
                  Sultan Ibragimov
                  Oleg Maskaev
                  Kirk Johnson
                  Chris Arreola
                  Shannon Briggs

                  So during Lennox Lewis's "era" which is pretty close to being the same era the K's have fought in, the only quality opponents he fought the K's didn't were: a crappy Oliver McCall, a underachieving Michael Grant, a nutty Andrew Golota, a shot Mike Tyson and an almost over the hill Evander Holyfield? Are you serious? I am sick of hearing about how ****ty this heavyweight era is just because there is no american superstar dominating it, its ridiculous and it is racist. Other than the eras of Dempsey/Tunney, Louis/Marciano and Ali/Frazier, please tell me what other era's were so overwhelmingly better than right now? With the possible exceptions of a prime Ali, Foreman, Tyson and Holmes, the K's would have pretty much destroyed every other heavyweight in history so I am tired of hearing this argument about how crappy it is right now. Their styles are cerebral and may sometimes look boring sure, but don't blame the era for that. Lennox retired immediately after the Vitali fight because he knew his ass was grass if he fought Vitali again. He kept rubbing this dreadlock knots all over Vitalis eye cut to open it up because he was on his way to being KOed. But it seems since no one can compete with them for the most part, the era is **** right?? No the era seems like **** because they are dominating everyone, that is why, so it is not exciting to many people.

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                  • #49
                    Let Vitali fight who ever in the late Summer/Early Fall, Haye should try and push for a fight with Marco Huck, who just beat Povetkin in the eyes of many. If Haye came back and beat Huck in July/August, he could than make his case for a Haye-Vitali fight after that.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Alpha & Omega View Post
                      The worst era in heavyweight boxing history? I just love to keep hearing that bs, what because they are white europeans it is the worst era? Ok so the K brothers have beaten/fought:

                      Ray Mercer
                      Jameel McCline
                      Chris Byrd
                      Monte Barrett
                      Corrie Sanders
                      Lamon Brewster
                      Sam Peter
                      Hasim Rahman
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Ruslan Chagaev
                      Sultan Ibragimov
                      Oleg Maskaev
                      Kirk Johnson
                      Chris Arreola
                      Shannon Briggs

                      So during Lennox Lewis's "era" which is pretty close to being the same era the K's have fought in, the only quality opponents he fought the K's didn't were: a crappy Oliver McCall, a underachieving Michael Grant, a nutty Andrew Golota, a shot Mike Tyson and an almost over the hill Evander Holyfield? Are you serious? I am sick of hearing about how ****ty this heavyweight era is just because there is no american superstar dominating it, its ridiculous and it is racist. Other than the eras of Dempsey/Tunney, Louis/Marciano and Ali/Frazier, please tell me what other era's were so overwhelmingly better than right now? With the possible exceptions of a prime Ali, Foreman, Tyson and Holmes, the K's would have pretty much destroyed every other heavyweight in history so I am tired of hearing this argument about how crappy it is right now. Their styles are cerebral and may sometimes look boring sure, but don't blame the era for that. Lennox retired immediately after the Vitali fight because he knew his ass was grass if he fought Vitali again. He kept rubbing this dreadlock knots all over Vitalis eye cut to open it up because he was on his way to being KOed. But it seems since no one can compete with them for the most part, the era is **** right?? No the era seems like **** because they are dominating everyone, that is why, so it is not exciting to many people.
                      Lol at this bullsh**.

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