There's no arguement who beat the better ricky hatton is there?it was obviously Floyd

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  • Atreyu Khalil
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    #31
    Originally posted by Larryx2011
    naw man .that was terrible as well
    I agree, but it goes harder than that other joint

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      #32
      Originally posted by William Blake
      I don't think Hatton would have recieved that Gatti treatment as Gatti's best days were far behind him. Yet, I certainly agree that Hatton wasn't quite ready for May when both were at 140, then again, one could argue that Hatton was never ready for Floyd or Pacquiao, he just wasn't that talented.
      THIS^^^ yes!

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        #33
        Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
        Hatton had never even been knocked out before, but Floyd does it. yet it's not legit?
        I didn't say that. Floyd's knock out of Hatton was totally legit---though Hatton certainly seemed a lot more tired than he just beat down. I mean, he was able to get up, conduct interviews etc. We know he spent more time on the canvas with manny than fighting.

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          #34
          Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
          Hatton had never even been knocked out before, but Floyd does it. yet it's not legit?
          I ammnot saying it isn't legit. Floyd had a great performance.

          However, Hatton at 140 was most certainly a better weight for himself. How can anyone say he was weakened when clearly at 140 he was a bully, while at 147 he couldn't even bully colazzo.

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            #35
            Originally posted by William Blake
            I didn't say that. Floyd's knock out of Hatton was totally legit---though Hatton certainly seemed a lot more tired than he just beat down. I mean, he was able to get up, conduct interviews etc. We know he spent more time on the canvas with manny than fighting.
            Yes Manny hits harder...That means Manny's win was better? Floyd knocked him out Manny knocked him out, they are equal.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ChristianBale
              I ammnot saying it isn't legit. Floyd had a great performance.

              However, Hatton at 140 was most certainly a better weight for himself. How can anyone say he was weakened when clearly at 140 he was a bully, while at 147 he couldn't even bully colazzo.
              I dont know why everyone seems to downplay Collazo, he is no "picnic"

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                #37
                Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
                Yes Manny hits harder...That means Manny's win was better? Floyd knocked him out Manny knocked him out, they are equal.
                Manny doesn't hit harder fool. Floyd hits harder. Pacquiao used his skills.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
                  I dont know why everyone seems to downplay Collazo, he is no "picnic"
                  True he gave Berto he'll. Al though Berto has flaws in his footwork and stamina.

                  However collazo isn't really that good either. For example mosely clearly beat him.

                  Collazo is a good name but IMO that win, hattons only other fight at 147 doesn't constitute meaning he was better at 147.

                  I am not debating who performed better, PAC had a sensational few rounds and Ko.

                  Floyd had a very classy performance and picked his shots, countered, had inside game.

                  Both showed their best bs hatton, a testament to the type of fighter hatton was. He lost every round to both (maybe 2 vs floyd he won) but never gave up.

                  PAC showed his power and speed and high workrate and traps.

                  Floyd showed his genralship and reflexes.

                  But what I am debating is what weight is beter suited for hatton, and 140 was it.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ChristianBale
                    True he gave Berto he'll. Al though Berto has flaws in his footwork and stamina.

                    However collazo isn't really that good either. For example mosely clearly beat him.

                    Collazo is a good name but IMO that win, hattons only other fight at 147 doesn't constitute meaning he was better at 147.

                    I am not debating who performed better, PAC had a sensational few rounds and Ko.

                    Floyd had a very classy performance and picked his shots, countered, had inside game.

                    Both showed their best bs hatton, a testament to the type of fighter hatton was. He lost every round to both (maybe 2 vs floyd he won) but never gave up.

                    PAC showed his power and speed and high workrate and traps.

                    Floyd showed his genralship and reflexes.

                    But what I am debating is what weight is beter suited for hatton, and 140 was it.
                    In any other situation I would probably agree with you but because Hatton gets so darn fat between fights, its hard to say that 5 lbs made a difference in the midst of the 20lbs he had to lose, if not more.

                    Also you could argue that since he spent his entire career fighting at 140 maybe towards the Floyd fight he was feeling he couldn't make weight? People do grow and after doing 140 for 10 years it isn't so crazy to think Welterweight could have been a more comfortable weight for Ricky.

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                      #40
                      Hatton was lineal champ at 140 where Pac hattoned him

                      floyd made him jump up a weight class to fight him and he used his elbow and forearm a ridiculous amount of times.

                      So Pac beat him when he was lineal champ and floyd cheated twice and still barely beat him.

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