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Where do you rank Manny Pacquiao on the GOAT list???
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostI don't know why you put Langford in there. Johnson bounced him all over the ring. Although he did have a size and weight advantage, to be sure. But he outclassed Langford., who was otherwise a very good boxer.
Let's base an entire career off the fact he lost to Jack Johnson at Heavyweight weighing under the Middleweight Limit.
Add the fact that Jack Johnson shamelessly ducked Sam Langford when it was time for a rematch.
Let's dismiss his wins over Gans, O'Brien, Flowers, Willis, McVea, Jeanette, Ketchel etc.
As well as a draw with Walcott.
The man beat Joe Gans weighing 4-5 Lbs above the Lightweight and went on to beat Harry Willis, a Top 15 ATG at Heavyweight.
That's probably why I mentioned him, probably because he's one of the greatest fighters of all time.
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Ali, Robinson, Johnson, Armstrong, Tunney, Greb, Louis, Ray Leonard, Pep, and Langford. Those are my Top 10 GOAT off the top of my head. No particular order at all, didn't put that kind of though into it. If I had to pick my top 10 ever, that'd be it.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostNo, he will be higher, just too dominant for too long, since his wins over Morales and Co. for how many years is that? A whole career basically of 10 years nearly. He had a hiccup against Morales as well, but went on be the only man to stop him to this very day, so probably tells me he had a off night against Morales when he lost.
Only one fighter has given him any problems JMM, yet i think most people felt JMM was one punch away from being knocked out in all 3 fights, and if you wanted JMM to win, hoped he could survive really. Survival is the impression i get when watching fight Pac.
NO ONE thought Marquez was about to be KO'd in the 3rd fight, what the f**k were you watching??? Most people think Marquez deserved a decision over pacquiao in one of the fights at the very least. And lets not forget that Erik Morales beat Manny as well before Erik himself lost to Raheem.
If someone is being objective, there is no way you can place Pacquiao outside of the Top 50 or inside the Top 10-15. I got Pac and Floyd around Top 30, I voted for 21-30.
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i got him somewhere 40-50 and 95% of his ticket to the hof is based on his career at 130 and below. the mab/morales.jmm fights were his best. he got a lot of handpicked guys to say the least his 135 belt meant nothing nate campbell held 3/4 belts but manny fought david freakin diaz. cotto damaged/weight drained, oscar weight drained, didnt win a belt at 147 ( catchweight 145, or at 154 catchweight in a purse bid against a guy with no good wins coming off a cheating scandal) mayweather is higher but not a whole lot. mabye 10-20 places better.
i also have a very hard time hearing an argument for hopkins being ranked higher than roy. i understand your logic but i just disagree at boxings core roots. doesnt matter what roy is doing now there is a reason hopkins stayed at middle and roy chased the stars.Last edited by sammiza567; 03-08-2012, 01:46 AM.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostManny's wins: Sasakul, Ledwaba, Lucero, Barrera I, Velazquez, Morales II, Larios, Morales III, Solis, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III.
Manny's losses or draws: Torrecampo, Singsurat, Sanchez (draw), Marquez I )draw), and Morales I.
Where do you rank him on the GOAT list???
I have him right around the Top 30 to me.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostManny's wins: Sasakul, Ledwaba, Lucero, Barrera I, Velazquez, Morales II, Larios, Morales III, Solis, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III.
Manny's losses or draws: Torrecampo, Singsurat, Sanchez (draw), Marquez I )draw), and Morales I.
Where do you rank him on the GOAT list???
I have him right around the Top 30 to me.Originally posted by sammiza567 View Posti got him somewhere 40-50 and 95% of his ticket to the hof is based on his career at 130 and below. the mab/morales.jmm fights were his best. he got a lot of handpicked guys to say the least his 135 belt meant nothing nate campbell held 3/4 belts but manny fought david freakin diaz. cotto damaged/weight drained, oscar weight drained, didnt win a belt at 147 ( catchweight 145, or at 154 catchweight in a purse bid against a guy with no good wins coming off a cheating scandal) mayweather is higher but not a whole lot. mabye 10-20 places better.
i also have a very hard time hearing an argument for hopkins being ranked higher than roy. i understand your logic but i just disagree at boxings core roots. doesnt matter what roy is doing now there is a reason hopkins stayed at middle and roy chased the stars.
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hard to get real answers here.d1ck riders will rank him #1.haters will say he isnt even top 100.and most dont even have a list
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