Will Andre Ward have a better career than Bernard Hopkins?

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  • mathed
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    #21
    Originally posted by Larryx2011
    let me know when he gets to atleast 10 title defenses,then becomes undisputed champ then we can begin to debate
    I know. Another thing is, he will never approach that level either if he doesn't convince his team to make some defenses in Vegas or some other place besides Cali....not everyone is going to be willing to fight him in his backyard.

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    • $tate of Mind
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Surgeon
      Ward has done everything right so far and looked great doing it so i cant count him out..... HOWEVER Hopkins' really racked up the defences and his longevity and ability even now at the age of 47 count for a whole lot, he had some big wins too

      I cant see it but i will be rootin for young Andre to pull it off
      I agree with this, it's possible but not likely.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mathed
        I know. Another thing is, he will never approach that level either if he doesn't convince his team to make some defenses in Vegas or some other place besides Cali....not everyone is going to be willing to fight him in his backyard.
        Wasn't the Ward vs Froch fight in Atlantic City?

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        • nomadman
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          #24
          Yeah, it's very possible. Ward is a smart mofo, with the sort of style that lends itslef to longevity. And he's yet to really be tested. Very impressive fighter.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Since 1985
            Haha, please explain how Jeff Lacy was elite? A fighter needs to beat top level competition for a sustained period of time to become elite. Was Buster Douglas elite because he beat Tyson. Was Mayorga elite because he beat Forrest (RIP) twice?
            Lacy was the heavy favourite going into the Calzaghe fight. There are still old threads knocking around on here that'll attest to that.

            Saying that, Ward is clearly a bonafide top class boxer. He has an extremely impressive resume considering his age, and beat everyone he faced in very emphatic fashion.

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            • djtmal
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              #26
              Originally posted by Davis40
              People refuse to accept that Hopkins is a natural middleweight. He is 100%. The guy weighed 157 at 40 years old and didn't gain a pound in like 20 years. He has a big frame and looked huge at 160 but that's great genetics. He was a middleweight naturally like any other 160 pounder. The haters can't get over it.

              I'm not calling you a hater.
              lol...hard to get around the fact that dude's first fight was @ 175...

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                #27
                Originally posted by Since 1985
                ??????????
                I think so..

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                • Tmann400
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                  #28
                  It's really hard to say given they're in different eras, weightclasses etc. And just different circumstances in general. Will he have a "better" career? We'll have to see about that. You can't really make a judgement call on that yet. All that being said, so far Ward has dominated every world class elite fighter he's faced over the last couple of years, so he's showed overall poise and focus and tremendous consistency. Anyway you cut it I think Ward has a long dominant path ahead of him, and an impressive career as well.

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