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POLL: Which one of these 3 Hws during their prime will be a favorite vs Wladimir

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  • #21
    There is no Wlad beats all 3 not because I think Wlad can't beat Tyson or Ali but because Lennox Lewis is one of the 3.

    To say Wlad can beat Lennox in a series of fights will be like saying a
    Mountain Lion (cougar) can beat a African Male Lion both in their primes. It's just ludicrous to think.

    The mountain lion is a cat species with claws teeth agility size strength and stealth.

    The African Lion is everything the mountain lion is but better......

    If you want a true comparison of Wlad vs Lennox in terms of style and technique, if you can assure yourself of not falling asleep, watch a Wladimir Fight against a short slugger, then watch a lennox fight vs David Tua.

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    • #22
      Also athletes get naturally bigger as time goes on. If a 6'3 1/2 Ali was in today's heavy weight division Ali will be around 230+, weather that will effect his skills or movements who knows. But using weight and size advantage is often incorrect, since boxers pre 90's era weigh less.

      That said Manny is just a size freak, I actaully think Lennox was better sub 240 pounds because he was much more agile, but Manny just like to boost up his fighters because he taught them to use their size advantages to the best of their abilities. Leaning, holding, etc.

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      • #23
        @JIMMY

        Looks like there's a lot of morons who think Wlad will get dominated ..

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        • #24
          all three obviously

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          • #25
            i think this current wlkad beats all three. WHereas pre sam peter 1 fight, wlad could lose as his defensive was poor relatively.

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            • #26
              haters gonna hate

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              • #27
                Tyson lands a combination on any of the Klitchkos it would be lights out for them. Ali and Lewis would be a more competetive fight for the Klitchkos but again they would lose.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                  He beat Evander for the same reason that Ruiz, Toney, Imbroganov, Donald, and others have. He was OLD! So you could have left Evander off that list. Byrd was a C level fighter at bst. He beat Tua because Tua has always been lazy and a power dummy. We all know what happened in the Vitali fight.
                  Byrd is a C fighter now? At his best?? I'm clearly trading words with a moron. Ta ta for now.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by polarcub View Post
                    Also athletes get naturally bigger as time goes on. If a 6'3 1/2 Ali was in today's heavy weight division Ali will be around 230+, weather that will effect his skills or movements who knows. But using weight and size advantage is often incorrect, since boxers pre 90's era weigh less.

                    That said Manny is just a size freak, I actaully think Lennox was better sub 240 pounds because he was much more agile, but Manny just like to boost up his fighters because he taught them to use their size advantages to the best of their abilities. Leaning, holding, etc.
                    So now fantasy fighters of the past have the advantage of an extra two or three inches in height and 20lbs of added lean muscle mass? Whilst keeping every other advantage, speed, coordination, mental strength? Sorry, but that's putting way too much emphasis on the 'fantasy' part of the fight. Someone made a thread wondering how Rid**** Bowe would do in today's era. There were the predictable responses of course. But the reality as I see it is that he'd more than likely come in fat and undertrained, fight down to the level of his opponents and just end up being labeled another 'bum' today.

                    Fighters are what they are in the environment they were brought up in. Would added luxury and a more comfortable lifestyle have helped Frazier to become what he became? It might have helped him to physically develop into a better athlete, but would good is athleticism if you no longer have the desire, drive, determination, mental strength to succeed?

                    Let's not start flying off into the realms of the absurd please.

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                    • #30
                      Now while I think Vitali has the ability to compete & be successful in any era, I won't say the same about Wlad.

                      The fact still remains that those other heavyweights fought in deeper era's.

                      That does not mean that Vitali would automatically lose to them though.

                      Heavyweights of today are simply ******, they hunt heads of bigger men. A fighter like Frazier with that peakaboo type style who remembered the body would have enjoyed success right now.

                      The brothers are good enough on style & size alone to beat at least half of the older atg legends, but they'd lose to some as well with Vitali going much further than Wlad IMO.

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