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  • Originally posted by rossle View Post
    Holmes has more championship ko wins than Vitali does and so does Tyson.
    Try again........

    Title fight records:

    Vitali: 15-2 (11 ko's)

    Tyson: 12-4 (10 ko's)

    Holmes: 20-5 (14 ko's)

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    • Originally posted by polarcub View Post
      Ya thinking that a Prime VItali BEATS a Prime Lewis is fine by me. So Jimmy make some valid arguments.


      BUT to the guys that keep INSISTING that was a prime lewis fighting vitali that night. You got to be ****ing ****** as hell.
      To keep it absolutely real.... it was right in between.. it was neither prime nor about to be retired. Sure there have been past greats that once they reached Lewis' age they were done for.. but every alltime greats peaks & valleys at different ages..... nothing suggested before the Vitali fight that Lewis peaked & was long past his prime in terms of performance.. age is the ONLY thing that would suggest it & I belive the saying of"growing old overnight" is a bunch of hogwash so one can make excuses for a lackluster performance... you grow old & it shows in each fight you have as it's a gradual decline.. we have peeps saying Vitali grew old overnight vs Chisora.. watch how old he is in the next bout when he's 100%...


      I WILL NEVER USE THE EXCUSE OF VITALI WAS OLD & THERFORE HE got knocked out or even tasted canvas because I BELIEVE unlike Lewis or other alltime great fanatics that EVERY version of VITALI is him & only him... that's partly due to the fact I KNOW that in each & every bout NO MATTER WHAT.. HE'S the bigger & stronger guy & MOST importantly the one that's in better shape with NO exceptions... so therefore there's no excuses.. except simply when he's not fighting at 100% due to injuries & cuts sustained in a bout.. even though



      I KNOW for a fact the opposition ain't winning no more than 2rds regardless of the condition Vitali is in physically... to KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE MOST DOMINATING FIGHTER THAT'S EVER LIVED brings about a certain security & comfort level that he'll never let me down when i'm rooting him on NO MATTER WHAT OPPOSITION is in front of him from fantasy matchups all the way down to family disputes.. i know he can't be beat legitimately... that's why I LAUGH at all the haters & go toe to toe with them... BECAUSE i know the truth....while everyone else that hates is in denial of it when there's 100's upon HUNDREDS of facts & evidence that backs it up.

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      • Jeebus tapping Christmas...


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        • Originally posted by polarcub View Post
          Also it don't matter if Vitali or Wlad are actually better then Lewis or not, what does matter is the vast majority of boxing fans and boxing sites think a prime lennox lewis knock Wlad the **** OUT. and beats vitali.


          And the vast majority of boxing fans view lennox in a higher standing then either K BROS.

          The thing is there's no evidence when it comes to boxing debates between fighters of different eras only opinions.

          Like say BMW VS LEXUS
          Which car sells more. THERE IS EVIDENCE opinions don't mean **** when it comes to that because there is facts and stats.

          Saying Prime Vitali will beat Prime Lennox is just ****ing speculation, so in that regard THE BEST way to decide who will win is seeing who the vast majority of boxing fans think will win. And most think Prime Lennox > then either k bros.
          Half of what you said is spot on about the factual stuff & the other half about fan speculation determining outcomes is STILL opinion based & a popularity contest & HAS NOTHING AT ALL to due with the potential outcome of a bout.. so which one is it... are you to keep talking out of your A$sss or are you going to be a thought provoking poster.. seems to me like your opinions & ideas change with every post you write.. Are you trying to please or are you going to be your own thinker & accept scrutiny for what you write & let me tell you some of the shet that you write is so outlandish... i don't blame you for using a backpedal.. what's it going to be.. son.. as i do see a little potential. although you will be better served cutting down the language until you've earned it as it just makes you out to look like a wannabee thug poster without substance... kapish.

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          • Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
            Try again........

            Title fight records:

            Vitali: 15-2 (11 ko's)

            Tyson: 12-4 (10 ko's)

            Holmes: 20-5 (14 ko's)
            Nice going.. getting Holmes & tyson's title records.. although I BELIEVE Vitali is 14-2 with 11 kos'.. one of his non ko's was vs Hoffman in a non title affair.. So if these figures are correct.. Vitali has ko'ed 11 out of 16 bouts = 69%.. IRon mike is 10 out of 16 bouts = 62% & Holmes is 14 out of 25 bouts = 56%.....
            Just as i suspected.. Vitali has the better winning% & ko% of both fellow alltime greats in championship sanctioned bouts..... these idiots still talking about resumes when Vitali's championship resume compares favorably with most other greats considered erreoneously i might add superior to him. Vitali & Tyson have had the same amount of title bouts with IRON mike fighting many more times than Vitali.

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            • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
              kLITSCHKO FACT #8... Vitali Klitschko has NEVER lost a staredown.... even IRON mike lost both staredowns to Holyfield.

              Look what's happening to the champion in my mugshot.....THIS is a "green" challenger who's supposed to be in awe.
              Stare downs mean nothing, and a "green" Challenger is someone who is 15-2, not someone who is ranked #1, has more than 30 fightsand has already won a paper strap.

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Stare downs mean nothing, and a "green" Challenger is someone who is 15-2, not someone who is ranked #1, has more than 30 fightsand has already won a paper strap.
                You crack me up with all your literal crap.. when you know i'm trying to emphatically make a point (it's annoying.. please stop son).. So now all of a sudden Vitali has an accomplished resume before facing Lennox... lol at how you scramble when yours truly is schooling. Staredowns mean nothing when you can't back up what you are staring at. Vitali stares at you intently.. LL was even wondering wtf is wrong with this guy.. is he NOT intimidated by me.. Surely it unnerved him & it showed in the very few minutes when he tried to overpower Vitali ONLY to have it backfire bigtime.. his indiscretion nearly got him ktfo 4 minutes into the bout.. When he found out what Vitali was about.. Manny & the dirty tricks came to fruition.. as he knew fighting fair & square with Klitschko would have him ko'ed sooner rather than later.. don't think this was all lost on Emmanuel Steward who knew his fighter was in desperate need & in survival mode.. so he instructed LL to rough him up ( translation for use every dirty trick) in the book to keep from getting ktfo... hitting & holding.. wrestling VK to the ground.. etc. etc. & walla.. LL hit the lottery as per Emanuel Instructions.

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                • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                  You crack me up with all your literal crap.. when you know i'm trying to emphatically make a point (it's annoying.. please stop son).. So now all of a sudden Vitali has an accomplished resume before facing Lennox... lol at how you scramble when yours truly is schooling. Staredowns mean nothing when you can't back up what you are staring at. Vitali stares at you intently.. LL was even wondering wtf is wrong with this guy.. is he NOT intimidated by me.. Surely it unnerved him & it showed in the very few minutes when he tried to overpower Vitali ONLY to have it backfire bigtime.. his indiscretion nearly got him ktfo 4 minutes into the bout.. When he found out what Vitali was about.. Manny & the dirty tricks came to fruition.. as he knew fighting fair & square with Klitschko would have him ko'ed sooner rather than later.. don't think this was all lost on Emmanuel Steward who knew his fighter was in desperate need & in survival mode.. so he instructed LL to rough him up ( translation for use every dirty trick) in the book to keep from getting ktfo... hitting & holding.. wrestling VK to the ground.. etc. etc. & walla.. LL hit the lottery as per Emanuel Instructions.
                  Resume and experience are not mutual.

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                  • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                    Nice going.. getting Holmes & tyson's title records.. although I BELIEVE Vitali is 14-2 with 11 kos'.. one of his non ko's was vs Hoffman in a non title affair.. So if these figures are correct.. Vitali has ko'ed 11 out of 16 bouts = 69%.. IRon mike is 10 out of 16 bouts = 62% & Holmes is 14 out of 25 bouts = 56%.....
                    Just as i suspected.. Vitali has the better winning% & ko% of both fellow alltime greats in championship sanctioned bouts..... these idiots still talking about resumes when Vitali's championship resume compares favorably with most other greats considered erreoneously i might add superior to him. Vitali & Tyson have had the same amount of title bouts with IRON mike fighting many more times than Vitali.
                    Vitali is now 14-2 after fighting and beating Chisora. You are correct. I keep forgetting that the Kirk Johnson fight was an eliminator. Good call.

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                    • Also, Lennox was 17-2 (10) in title fights. I bet Vitali's last goal is to surpass him and retire 18-2 (15) in title fights. If he stops all of his next 4 opponents, he will have regained the best KO% of all heavyweight champions once again as well.

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