Comments Thread For: Mayweather Explains Why 'He Can't' Give Pacquiao 50-50

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^^ @ the weight penalty actually being any kind of roadblock
and i dont remember pacquiao ever wanting to know when the tests were happening, but rather a cut-off date

See what I'm saying? This clown is laughing at me for posting straight facts on what happened. So you don't consider paying 10MIL a 1LB over the limit as a road block? Also, HE DID want to know when he would be tested.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

That's wanting to know when you will be tested. Try reading before you reply to me.

[Spoon23]

I find it rather funny how Pacquiao fans try to forget about the first negotiations and when they do remember. They always forget about Pac ducking Floyd and the random blood tests with the excuses "Floyd never asked anyone else to take the tests" or "Who is Floyd to demand Pac to take a random blood test" or "Manny don't have to bend over for Floyd". All of those are b!tc# @$$ excuses. Personally I'm not into Mayweather because dude is a diva and a cry baby but fact of the matter is, Floyd was ready to fight in 09 and the only reason the fight didn't happen was because Manny wanted to know when the tests would be administered, taking the word RANDOM out of random blood and urine testing.

Not saying Pac was/is taking anything because I just think he was matched up properly to look greater then he really is but the reals is. Pac didn't want to take blood tests to fight the best and biggest fight of his career and get PAID. Back then Mayweather agreed to 50/50, weight penalty, the whole nine. How can Pac fans sit at their computers and type non sense about Floyd ducking? Pac negotiated a fight with Clottey while he was negotiating with Mayweather. It was Manny Pacquiao's fault that this fight didn't happen when it was supposed to and to deny that and favor Pac, clearly shows you are bias, ESPECIALLY if you are cosigning all of Pac and Arum's excuses.







In my opinion I feel Floyd should have just fought him without the tests because I believe he could still whip him if he was juiced up but I'm not Floyd. If he believes Manny was on something then he had/has a right to ask for a test. The funny thing is. Why wouldn't Pacquiao agree to it if the dude was clean OR if he really wanted to fight? Have to be one of the two. Anyway, ain't trying to beat a dead horse but $h!t is crazy when you think about how many Pac fans ignore this just to support Manny. Don't you guys know that the fight ain't happen because of something so petty? Be fans of the sport and not just for 1 boxer if you are going to come on here and tell people they're bugging and call them names when the facts and truth is right there.

A round and round we go...

What you left out is, a business talk needs 2 camps compromising to make the deal work..

Not a one sided transaction:

facts:

step back and look, you know who has been preventing this fight from happening.



1. At the beginning people thought the fight was almost signed, 50/50 was ok with Mayweather. Everyone thought the fight was on, including Pacquiao, then he throws a curve ball, the OSDT. Pacquiao agrees to 28 day cutoff, Mayweather says 14 days. No fight.

2. Second round of talks, Pacquiao agrees to the 14 days, Mayweather changes his mind, it was ok before but now it's not, why? Again no fight.

3. Pacquiao finally agrees to whatever Mayweather's testing demands are. Mayweather throws another curve ball, 50/50 used to be ok, now it's not, why? Again no fight.

If you look at the common denominator here, someone has been consistently throwing curve balls and road blocks from making this fight. While the other guy keeps making concessions to those demands to try and make the fight.

Bullseye! Roadblocks are meant to evade, duck, dodge, hide in yo mamma's skirt.. ummm Floyd should grow a pair first before blaming it on arum coz Floyd rather fight for chump change with Cotto than fighting Pac for 50 mill plus fight. Dodging again maybe? Who turns down 50 plus mill and go for chump change. Clear as day who's quaking here. Evven if he agrees to a 50/50 split with pac he will still earn more than fighting cotto.

A cool 50million to 100 million more..

Hmm. risk is too high fighting Pac so go for a safer route aye.

Just tell you're boy to fight legit fights not fighting has beens and old men who has nothing left in the tank. Cotto is being thrown in the gallows..

Beating up a dead horse ain't going to improve Floyd's legacy. Floyd is a fvkn Joke

[Spoon23]

"It's amazing how much crying Manny and his fans do, and I feel bad for them but Manny chooses to put other things in front of his boxing career and thats not Floyd's problem. The dude said he would take less money, the NSAC paperwork revealing past guaranteed purses proves he deserves less money, and other than Arum 'projections' of his PPV sales; We still don't really know what Pacquiao's true worth is. I applaud Mayweather for blowing holes in theories which attacks African/Americans and their intelligence, because he has not only exposed and exploited the Media for what it is, but he has also got the drop on Arum and Manny and how they've been manipulating the public...beautiful.

Can Manny get the fight, I'm sure he can but he's knows what he has to do. Mayweather laid his own path to riches and success in the business a while ago, and an eventual fight with a guy like Martinez looming make all the talk of he, Pacquiao, and legacy fight in the same sentence irrelevant. But hey Pacquiao fans; like I said before I can feel your pain and all Manny has to do is wake up and smell the coffee, because otherwise he'll keep watching the Mayweather payday 'Walk on By'..."

The Truck

It's amazing how hard you try to defend your boy day in and day out. What a real soldier boy hehe!

these floyd fanboys still don't get it.

floyd doesn't want this fight. he's afraid to get hurt and end up like ali.
what part of that don't you understand silly kids?


"ali gave the fans what they wanted and look what happened, he fought the fights the fans wanted, and look what happened, uhh uhh not for me, i dont wanna get beat up, so i'll continue to avoid anyone legit and fight has-beens"

-money may


to summarize floyds interview

Floyd: "ali should have ducked frazier like im ducking pacquiao right now"

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A round and round we go...

What you left out is, a business talk needs 2 camps compromising to make the deal work..

Not a one sided transaction:

facts:

step back and look, you know who has been preventing this fight from happening.



1. At the beginning people thought the fight was almost signed, 50/50 was ok with Mayweather. Everyone thought the fight was on, including Pacquiao, then he throws a curve ball, the OSDT. Pacquiao agrees to 28 day cutoff, Mayweather says 14 days. No fight.

2. Second round of talks, Pacquiao agrees to the 14 days, Mayweather changes his mind, it was ok before but now it's not, why? Again no fight.

3. Pacquiao finally agrees to whatever Mayweather's testing demands are. Mayweather throws another curve ball, 50/50 used to be ok, now it's not, why? Again no fight.

If you look at the common denominator here, someone has been consistently throwing curve balls and road blocks from making this fight. While the other guy keeps making concessions to those demands to try and make the fight.

Bullseye! Roadblocks are meant to evade, duck, dodge, hide in yo mamma's skirt.. ummm Floyd should grow a pair first before blaming it on arum coz Floyd rather fight for chump change with Cotto than fighting Pac for 50 mill plus fight. Dodging again maybe? Who turns down 50 plus mill and go for chump change. Clear as day who's quaking here. Evven if he agrees to a 50/50 split with pac he will still earn more than fighting cotto.

A cool 50million to 100 million more..

Hmm. risk is too high fighting Pac so go for a safer route aye.

Just tell you're boy to fight legit fights not fighting has beens and old men who has nothing left in the tank. Cotto is being thrown in the gallows..

Beating up a dead horse ain't going to improve Floyd's legacy. Floyd is a fvkn Joke

Listen spoon. I provided quotes and links of EXACTLY what went down from the first negotiations. Everything you're stating is your opinion. you can't supersede the truth bruh. The bold is EXACTLY how I know you are a fan of Manny Pacquiao and a salty person towards Floyd Mayweather Jr. Pac wanted that same Cotto at a weight Cotto couldn't make. Undefeated Timothy Bradley was his 2nd choice "reluctantly".

[SplitSecond]

See what I'm saying? This clown is laughing at me for posting straight facts on what happened. So you don't consider paying 10MIL a 1LB over the limit as a road block? Also, HE DID want to know when he would be tested.



That's wanting to know when you will be tested. Try reading before you reply to me.

how the **** can a weight penalty(something that is always present) be a roadblock? yea he increased the price floyd would pay if he were to break the rules, but how is that a roadblock unless floyd PLANS on breaking the rules?

****in idiot

[Toyman]

Another important fact that is easily forgotten is that as far back as the first negotiations, Pac was willing to have unlimited blood/urine testing if the NSAC required it.

Floyd outright refused to join the petition with pac, top rank and goldenboy to have the nsac carry out the test.


That was the 1st of 3 blatant ducks.

The next 2 are:

"Negotiations never happened"

and

"Take the 40 million, with no ppv revenue."

[Ruthless One]

Let's just have the Mayweather Man-harem and the *******s fight each other in the ring since their respective idols are too damn chicken to fight each other.

[Spoon23]

Let's just have the Mayweather Man-harem and the *******s fight each other in the ring since their respective idols are too damn chicken to fight each other.

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Sometimes in life, the things you are looking for are clearly in your vision. You just have to seek them out. While at the Apollo Theater for the Mayweather-Cotto NYC press tour stop, the answer to who was to blame for the mega fight not happening became evident to me. It is Mayweather. During his time at the podium, Mayweather claimed “Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter but he should take the test.” Yes, Mayweather pulled the good old, “take the test” trick out of his hat, a trick that never seems to fail the media or the fans. It seems as if Floyd has an arduous time keeping up with what excuse he is currently using for the fight with Manny not happening. The week prior to Mayweather saying this, Pacquiao told multiple boxing writers, including myself that OSTD wasn’t an issue and that the fight with Mayweather fell apart due to Floyd denying him a 50/50 split in revenue. According to both men, the fight isn’t happening on May 5th because they couldn’t come to an agreement on money, not drug testing. Yet, Floyd still disingenuously claims Manny should “take the test”. Mayweather then went on to claim that Pacquiao would never get a 50/50 split. “Nobody will” he claimed. What a tangled web we weave, when at first we plan to deceive.

If you are a boxing purist, it would be nearly impossible to not be a fan of Floyd Mayweather. In the ring he is brilliant. For two years now, I have defended him and took his side, telling others that he would easily beat Pacquiao, and I still believe he would. But, obviously we will never know due to the internal insecurities that Floyd has. All of the calling out via Twitter didn’t happen in 2009 after Pacquiao destroyed Miguel Cotto. It happened after Manny nearly lost a close decision to Juan Manuel Marquez last November. Floyd Mayweather is a coward. The sad thing is that he has no reason to be afraid, as he has all the tools to clearly beat Manny Pacquiao. Instead, he will tell Pacquiao to “take the test”, while Manny has already agreed to do so. You can blame Bob Arum, You can blame Manny Pacquiao, and you can blame whomever you want to blame.

The real blame should rest directly on the shoulders of Floyd Mayweather. It is evident in his actions that he doesn’t care about his legacy or his fans. He refuses to fight fighters’ in their prime, when the demand is in. Floyd is a business man first, Manny is a fighter first. Perhaps, that is the reason why Pacquiao was named “Fighter of the decade” and Mayweather wasn’t. Fight fans should take a look at Mayweather’s inconsistencies, which far outweigh those of Bob Arum, and blame him for the mega fight not happening. After all, it is not like he cares what the fans think of him anyway.

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how the **** can a weight penalty(something that is always present) be a roadblock? yea he increased the price floyd would pay if he were to break the rules, but how is that a roadblock unless floyd PLANS on breaking the rules?

****in idiot

Sorry boxingscene for calling this jack ass a name but having to pay 10MIL for 1LB over is a road block dumb ass.

[PlayerKiller]

When did Floyd even give an opinion that the 10mil a lb fine was a problem?