Comments Thread For: Mayweather Explains Why 'He Can't' Give Pacquiao 50-50

[The Big Dunn]

hhmmm... are you still living on OSCAR vs Floyds time? lol! have you seen the PPVs lately? who will get more sponsors? who is getting the tag as "Jordan of Boxing", Im sure its not floyd... lol!

I don't know how endorsement deals and knicknames, however far fetched, factor into negotiating this fight.

[Stl_Buay]

WHen floyd fought ODH he was unqestionably the #1 p4p boxer in the world. So its crazy to say he didn't have the same standing. As far as negotiations for the fights you listed you have NO IDEA what happened, especially in fights before you were born.

Just run the numbers aqnd split the fight that way. Tell me what is fairer then that?

So you're saying Floyd was as popular pre De Lo Hoya as Pacquaio is today??????? WOW.... Give me some of that Kool Aid... I do have an idea of what happened before I was born... I READ and Investigate all of the fights I named were 50/50 or 55/45...

[AFighter4U]

Respectfully, I find it hard to believe this and don't see how you believe it. Bob Arum would pick Floyd Mayweather of all people to suddenly be generous and offer a 50/50 split even though he ran the numbers and pac came out ahead. Really?

floyd himself confirmed the 45/45 10 offer during the interview. and he himself said that he rejected the offer.

[Daddy T]

No I just thought thats a small sample but I see your point. As I have argued just run all the numbers and split it that way. My guess is al and Bob have done this on behalf of floyd and manny. My guess is floyd came out ahead because bob/manny have been to willing to accept 50/50 a split they'd never give if the numbers suggested manny get more.

yeah I think last 3 or 4 fights is the best way to get the figures, either way they both bring pretty much the same amount of buys to the table a few percent either way. 45-45 with 10 extra to the winner seems great and reasonable to me. if those figures showed Floyd was getting like 4 million buys to pacs 2 or something then he'd have a point, but at 3.86 million PPV buys for pacs last 3 and 3.65 for floyds its just complete bs

[maguirre]

man, do you honestly believe this mayweather guy is worth the money he's getting? this guy is not even on tyson's level when it comes to generating excitement in the ring. not even close. pacquiao is closest.

tyson didn't have as much haters as this guy have. i neither rooted for tyson nor wanted to see him lose. i'm sure it's the same for most people. it was the whole spirit of the fight and the sport people were there to witness. in contrast, this guy watch his fights to see him lose. why, because they hate that he never make an extra effort to entertain the crowd. he's just there to defend himself with no intention of knocking out his opponents.

I hear you bro. His fans make it appear as if he is that kind of boxer who casual fans are excited to see. He's probably the least mentioned boxer in the mainstream media.

[The Big Dunn]

No there isnt

But you are talking out of your ass by saying that. Back your reasoning up with actual numbers and then it would make sense. You keep projecting that floyd generates more and should receive more but im not seeing any evidence of this. Neither floyd himself nor his fans are dropping actual statistics to support him asking for more

Fair point. I don't have all the numbers and niether does anyone on this site. I believe Bob and Al do. And I believe, having watched Bob do fights for nearly 25 years, that he would NEVER accept 50/50 when his fighter is the bigger name. The only fight I remeber was hagler leonard, and Leonard ONLY cared about the ring size so he willingly gave away his financial advantage to get the larger ring to increase his chances of winning.

Bob would NEVER offer anyone, let alone floyd, a 50/50 split if the numbers said not to. Can we at least agree on this?

[Russian Crushin]

Respectfully, I find it hard to believe this and don't see how you believe it. Bob Arum would pick Floyd Mayweather of all people to suddenly be generous and offer a 50/50 split even though he ran the numbers and pac came out ahead. Really?

Because you believe anything Floyd believes and ALWAYS give FLoyd the benefit of the doubt that he's right

NO matter what Floyd does, you find a way to try to blame pac to justify his decision

"Everything is Pacs fault because FLoyd wouldnt say that if it wasnt"--Thats the way you think

[Stl_Buay]

No I just thought thats a small sample but I see your point. As I have argued just run all the numbers and split it that way. My guess is al and Bob have done this on behalf of floyd and manny. My guess is floyd came out ahead because bob/manny have been to willing to accept 50/50 a split they'd never give if the numbers suggested manny get more.

I'll repost for you to read Manny sell more PPV than Floyd!!!!!! Floyd might have a slightly higher per fight average but it's easy math Manny fights more = more PPV buys... Floyd fights once every 15 months generating the same or slightly higher per fight numbers...

Pacquiao is the king of PPV he has sold more PPVs than Floyd... I think Floyd first PPV was against Gatti and his biggest fight came when he was a B-side fighter to De la Hoya... He has done big one fight numbers over the years because he marketed 3 fight as comming out of retirement fights... He has fought 4 times since June of '07 that's 4 times in 58 months an average of once ever 14.5 months... While during that same time Manny has fought 10 times that's once ever 5.8 months... They basically sold the same amount of one fight numbers during that time even with Floyd fighting Mexicans on Mexican holiday weekends... It's easy to ask your fans to shell out $60 once every 14.5 months versus $60 bucks every 5.8 months... During that time a Mayweather fan would only have to shell out $240 while a Pacquiao fan would have to shell out $540 a 125% more... (The Diaz fight was not on PPV).

So you have one guy who was the B-side of the biggest selling PPV and another guy who is the PPV king and has generated more revenue and has fought in front of more sellout crowds and is the most popular fighter in the world not just the ******.... I think Manny is being more than fair by even offering Floyd 50/50 or 45/45 winner takes extra 10%... The first black president invited Manny to the White House not Floyd... Nike/Jordan are signing Manny not Floyd... Floyd doesn't even have any endoresments and nobody knows him outside of U.S. ******s and boxing fans... Manny is a global icon and Floyd doesn't get it but why should we expect him too.. He's a 35 year old millionare heading to the joint on some BS.....

[The Big Dunn]

So you're saying Floyd was as popular pre De Lo Hoya as Pacquaio is today??????? WOW.... Give me some of that Kool Aid... I do have an idea of what happened before I was born... I READ and Investigate all of the fights I named were 50/50 or 55/45...

I am not saying floyd is as popular as ODH and it doesn;t matter if he is or isnt. It only matters what he sells.

Did you look at how they got at 50/50?
for example, Hagler Leonard-leonrad gives up financials for larger ring to increase chances of winning

Come on dude I get where your going but please don't overexaggerate to make your point.

[UglyPug]

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