Boxers who should have been stars but never were...

[Guest]

you know, I don't mean people acknowledging someone's ABILITY, I mean someone's marketability. Like Winky Wright... he never did anything particularly wrong for years but was pretty much unknown to Joe Blow. Yet even now after beating Shane Moseley twice and embarrassing Tito to death he's still not "marquee value", is he? The fault isn't with his BOXING (though it is a bit of a dull style, to be fair, bad example) but that he lacks that intrinsic "star" quality.

The same quality that means even a shot Tyson would set this forum alight if he came back.

[Guest]

The Slop. Yeah, he gets audiences and stuff, but it takes someone like De La Hoya to preten... er, to take a body shot off him before he gets PPV.

I mean, I know he's fairly famous, but while we're all on here debating over whether The Slop is an all time top 10 middleweight and his place in the HOF does the man on the street really care that much about Bernard, no matter how many HBO profiles they do to build him up?

[TuPrincipe]

Yeah, what I'm saying - and this is my fault for not explaining it clearly - is not boxers that didn't achieve their full potential.

I'm talking about boxers who DID achieve their potential but for whatever reason never became big media darlings. Pretty boy De La Hoya could fart and we'd all be talking about it, but even when Glen Johnson laid out Roy there was still some reluctance to acknowledge him as a star player.

Actually, there's another - Antonio Tarver. Even though he was the man to shatter Roy's chi, er, legacy, he still hasn't become the big star, has he?

Good points Annie. I'm thinking of guy's like Winky Wright and John David Jackson. Both very good boxers by there own rights, but stylistically they didn't add up. Both these guys had to venture overseas for fights.

[Guest]

Good points Annie. I'm thinking of guy's like Winky Wright and John David Jackson. Both very good boxers by there own rights, but stylistically they didn't add up. Both these guys had to venture overseas for fights.

Just did Winky... great minds (or, in this case, our minds) think alike.

[THE REAL NINJA]

terry norris,thomas tate,

[SugaShane]

When I think of this thread the name that comes to mind is Meldrick Taylor. The man had TOO much pride to run from Chavez for a round and win the fight. Bad stoppage nonetheless but if he boxed for the whole round he easily wins that fight. He was a little mentally unstable though, yes, it was a bad loss but he could of rematched him 6 months and totally the same result, but that loss totally psychologically ****ed him.

[scap]

When I think of this thread the name that comes to mind is Meldrick Taylor. The man had TOO much pride to run from Chavez for a round and win the fight. Bad stoppage nonetheless but if he boxed for the whole round he easily wins that fight. He was a little mentally unstable though, yes, it was a bad loss but he could of rematched him 6 months and totally the same result, but that loss totally psychologically ****ed him.

Explain what the hell you are trying to say here Shane?

What would have happended in a remtach 6 months later?

Psychologically ****ed him up??? WRONG, the loss physically tore him apart, there is absolutely no debating this but I look forward to you trying.

[SugaShane]

Explain what the hell you are trying to say here Shane?

What would have happended in a remtach 6 months later?

Psychologically ****ed him up??? WRONG, the loss physically tore him apart, there is absolutely no debating this but I look forward to you trying.

Stop trolling me because you thought that Lacy TKOing Pemberton was significant and impressive. I'm saying that Taylor outboxed the great Chavez for 12 rounds only to be on the receiving end on a bull**** call. In a rematch 6 months later, anyone mentally stable, would dissect that match and next fight do much the same, box the **** out of him and stay away from the big right hand. C'mon man, who self destructs after a tough loss, he wasn't even brutally KOed or anything, he was on the receiving end on a tough decision.

[rsl]

Taylor was definitely better than pretty gay...plus he has all the intangibles gay meather doesn't and probably will never have...Meldrick represented philly and wasn't no lil *****! I wish he was around during our times now...instead we got all these sissified ***** made fighters.

Nez, puts it down. Today's cats are b!tch made. Here's my vote there are others, but Francisco Bojado has all the tools but the guy is one lazy mofo.

[scap]

Stop trolling me because you thought that Lacy TKOing Pemberton was significant and impressive. I'm saying that Taylor outboxed the great Chavez for 12 rounds only to be on the receiving end on a bull**** call. In a rematch 6 months later, anyone mentally stable, would dissect that match and next fight do much the same, box the **** out of him and stay away from the big right hand. C'mon man, who self destructs after a tough loss, he wasn't even brutally KOed or anything, he was on the receiving end on a tough decision.

If Rick Reeno made a list of the top ten worst posts every month this would find its way in the top 5 easy-cong****.

So you think if the fight took place 6 months later Taylor would have outboxed chavez?

Your saying the loss wasnt brutal? Maybe the actual knockout punch wasnt brutal but the fight defined BRUTAL!

Taylor's career was over after his fight with JC Superstar...it was over and not because he was crying about not getting the decision...because he was physically tortured for 12 rounds.

You should have to pass some sort of test to question or challenge me, I find it very rude and insulting that you are even trying to challneg someone such as myself...I know 38 different languages and Im a god damn yellow belt, I have been watching boxing non stop since 2003 and I have an 86 page book on Muhammad Ali...his whole career-yet you think you can just question the hell out of me and that is acceptable?

Watch what you say to me...Christmas is coming up and I have already asked for the Bowe v. Holyfield box set...question that you son of a *****!

In all seriousness dont respond and dont talk to me anymore-oh and dont you ****ing dare laugh out loud.