Who has more power? Mayweather or Cotto ?

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  • UglyPug
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    #11
    Originally posted by ThePhantom5
    Cotto has the power edge.

    But it's not a huge difference.

    This. . . The fact that it's at 154 makes no difference. . . In fact, the fact that cotto only has extra body fat when weighing in at 154, it actually further detracts from his power, because his punches are slower, and thereby easier to see coming.

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      #12
      Originally posted by New England
      crazy as it sounds i'd be shocked if he doesn't try and box with floyd for 12 rounds.
      i think that mentally he's no longer willing to take the risks involved with going full bore.

      call me crazy, but i think that's what he's going to try and do
      Me too.

      Cotto has become more of a boxer as he's gone up in weight, just like Floyd did. Floyd was a killer at 30, 35, and 40. Then he got to 47 and 54 and boxed more because he was facing bigger guys who's power he had to respect and who he couldn't hurt as easily.

      I think Cotto knows Floyd is going to try and press the action and he's gonna let him do that and hope to catch him in exchanges. It's probably his only chance, letting Floyd get wreckless and trying to capitalize.

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        #13
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor
        Me too.

        Cotto has become more of a boxer as he's gone up in weight, just like Floyd did. Floyd was a killer at 30, 35, and 40. Then he got to 47 and 54 and boxed more because he was facing bigger guys who's power he had to respect and who he couldn't hurt as easily.

        I think Cotto knows Floyd is going to try and press the action and he's gonna let him do that and hope to catch him in exchanges. It's probably his only chance, letting Floyd get wreckless and trying to capitalize.

        i hate saying this but i actually don't think cotto has any intention of trying to win


        boxing is his best chance to keep from getting beat up before he gets his paycheck


        i also wouldnt be surprised to see him retire in the ring after the fight if he does take another beating. there's only so many times a great boxer can go out there and get beat up in front of his family.

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          #14
          Originally posted by New England
          i hate saying this but i actually don't think cotto has any intention of trying to win


          boxing is his best chance to keep from getting beat up before he gets his paycheck


          i also wouldnt be surprised to see him retire in the ring after the fight if he does take another beating. there's only so many times a great boxer can go out there and get beat up in front of his family.
          I don't know if I agree with that. I think it takes a special kind of self confidence/belief to be a pro fighter, even if it's ill-advised.

          I think Cotto will be confident going in there, it's just how they're conditioned and it's why losses are so hard to swallow. Especially humiliating losses.

          But I agree on the strategy he will use. I think Diaz is really smart, I think Cotto will have an interesting strategy that will surprise a lot of people, Floyd's just too good to execute anything against.

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            I would say Cotto but I don't know,Floyd has that deceiving power that confuses me sometimes.You don't know how much power hes going to show up with on fight night, however I see Cotto being the strongest of the two.
            Last edited by AP♠; 02-29-2012, 05:04 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by savorduhflavor
              I don't know if I agree with that. I think it takes a special kind of self confidence/belief to be a pro fighter, even if it's ill-advised.

              I think Cotto will be confident going in there, it's just how they're conditioned and it's why losses are so hard to swallow. Especially humiliating losses.

              But I agree on the strategy he will use. I think Diaz is really smart, I think Cotto will have an interesting strategy that will surprise a lot of people, Floyd's just too good to execute anything against.

              the hang up here for me is the notion (for cotto and his handlers,) that mayweather is invariably the better boxer

              i dont think cotto actually believes he can outbox him, and that he will still try, and fail.

              you think he does believe he can win. and we can certainly agree to disagree.

              cotto's best bet is not to box. he's got to know that. if he's going into the fight with that mentality (that he's not willing to take the risks that will give him the best chance to win,) i dont think he really thinks he can outbox floyd.


              i think if he truely believes in himself he'll put himself in the best position to win the fight, and that's coming forward and breaking floyd down and not boxing.

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                #17
                Originally posted by New England
                the hang up here for me is the notion that mayweather is invariably the better boxer

                i dont think cotto actually believes he can outbox him, and that he will still try

                you think he does, and we can certainly agree to disagree.

                cotto's best bet is not to box. he's got to know that. if he's going into the fight with that mentality (that he's not willing to take the risks that will give him the best chance to win,) i dont think he really thinks he can outbox floyd.
                I just think Floyd's been on a mission to be more aggressive recently and it's made him get caught. I think Diaz will see this and will determine that the best option is not necessarily to box and move, but to try and capitalize on Floyd's aggressiveness because when Floyd's aggressive he's a little out of his comfort zone.

                I don't think it will work for a second, I'm just saying that whatever gameplan Diaz comes up with Cotto will believe he can execute it and win...I think that's just the overall psyche of fighters, they always think they can win.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by New England
                  the hang up here for me is the notion (for cotto and his handlers,) that mayweather is invariably the better boxer

                  i dont think cotto actually believes he can outbox him, and that he will still try, and fail.

                  you think he does believe he can win. and we can certainly agree to disagree.

                  cotto's best bet is not to box. he's got to know that. if he's going into the fight with that mentality (that he's not willing to take the risks that will give him the best chance to win,) i dont think he really thinks he can outbox floyd.


                  i think if he truely believes in himself he'll put himself in the best position to win the fight, and that's coming forward and breaking floyd down and not boxing.
                  Cotto has never been a throw caution to the wind guy, he has always been a calcuating boxer offensive minded sure but never a really go get you sort.

                  Is he better off trying to do something that isn't him, or trying his best at what he does best I would say the latter but it probably doesn't matter both are likely to get him beat bad.

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                    #19
                    Cotto, obviously. I feel the only divion where Floyd would have the power advantage is at 140.

                    It's not gonna matter though, I think Floyd is gonna be landing the harder and crisper shots (especially if he gets 8oz glove).

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                      #20
                      who voted floyd? lol

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