Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I View Miguel Cotto as Being Undefeated

[fvanesbeck]

what was unusual about it?
Cotto got discouraged, fatigued, and beat down
he didn't have the stamina/chin to sustain his effectiveness for 12 rds



not really
he got caught once, and deserves all the scorn in the world for it
but Tony had 37 fights before Mosley
we're to believe that whole time he cheated w/out getting caught?
we're to believe that whole time he was killing people with plaster?
that's fucking ridiculous

Okay then, please explain the red marks on Margarito's hand wraps before he put any gloves on against Mosley?

I never said he used them for all 37 fights, but I think he used them against Cotto for sure.

[-Lowkey-]

not really
he got caught once, and deserves all the scorn in the world for it
but Tony had 37 fights before Mosley
we're to believe that whole time he cheated w/out getting caught?
we're to believe that whole time he was killing people with plaster?
that's fucking ridiculous

So we are supposed to believe the first time he tried to cheat he got caught?

We are supposed to believe he doesn't cheat against Cotto a fight he is a big underdog for? But he tried to cheat against old man Mosley a fight he was a big favourite for? Makes no sense.

His whole career has been called into question and rightly so the fact that he was even allowed to box again is a disgrace.

[Jack Napier]

Okay then, please explain the red marks on Margarito's hand wraps before he put any gloves on against Mosley?

I never said he used them for all 37 fights, but I think he used them against Cotto for sure.

who knows?
won't claim to have that answer, could be anything
but that isn't proof he cheated

So we are supposed to believe the first time he tried to cheat he got caught?

We are supposed to believe he doesn't cheat against Cotto a fight he is a big underdog for? But he tried to cheat against old man Mosley a fight he was a big favourite for? Makes no sense.

His whole career has been called into question and rightly so the fact that he was even allowed to box again is a disgrace.

yep
he finally got to the top with the Cotto victory
and once he was there, he was willing to cheat to stay there
power/fame/money can corrupt people
the main argument on this is "Tony would have to cheat to beat Cotto"
that's ******
styles make fights; Tony shouldn't have been the underdog at all

[disolly]

first of all you fought marquez at catch weight and didnt bother to even make the weight , so by your theory you never beat him. cotto's last fight was at a catch weight because he felt he was too small for margs at 154. second, cotto looked damn good in the manny fight, he didnt look pale or dehydrated, but either way he has taken 2 huge beatings and has been to war more than a couple times where he has been nearly ko'd like his fight against torres.
i love the guy but he aint the same fighter as he once was. and you dodged him while he was actually undefeated and his prime, along with margs, williams, and mosley.

[Hougigo]

It seems like everybody is trying hard to make Cotto sound undefeated.... screw it, then Pacquiao is undefeated... hell, everybody is undefeated!

[fvanesbeck]

who knows?
won't claim to have that answer, could be anything
but that isn't proof he cheated

I accept that you don't want to accuse him unless there is something that proves 100% that he cheated against Cotto, but I'm saying that the argument that he did cheat is more convincing to most the the argument that he didn't. In fact, there is no argument that he didn't cheat, there's only an argument that he mightn't have cheated. I wouldn't have thought that he'd have cheated against Mosley without doing that against a prime Cotto, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[-Lowkey-]

who knows?
won't claim to have that answer, could be anything
but that isn't proof he cheated



yep
he finally got to the top with the Cotto victory
and once he was there, he was willing to cheat to stay there
power/fame/money can corrupt people
the main argument on this is "Tony would have to cheat to beat Cotto"
that's ******
styles make fights; Tony shouldn't have been the underdog at all

At the end of the of the day we can argue until we are blue in the face I have formed my own opinion you have obviously formed yours.

I believe Tony used those illegal wraps more than once quite possibly more than twice and his whole career has rightly been thrown into doubt he is a disgrace to boxing and should have never been allowed back into the ring.

[Hougigo]

first of all you fought marquez at catch weight and didnt bother to even make the weight , so by your theory you never beat him. cotto's last fight was at a catch weight because he felt he was too small for margs at 154. second, cotto looked damn good in the manny fight, he didnt look pale or dehydrated, but either way he has taken 2 huge beatings and has been to war more than a couple times where he has been nearly ko'd like his fight against torres.
i love the guy but he aint the same fighter as he once was. and you dodged him while he was actually undefeated and his prime, along with margs, williams, and mosley.

True.... buttttttttttt, Mayweather isn't Pacquiao... so technically it wasn't cheating

[Rolaz]

In the eyes of Mayweather Jr., Cotto is UNDEFEATED!

But, in the eyes of fans, he is fighting a Pacman’s LEFTOVER!

Mayweather Jr planted that word LEFTOVER, now he is harvesting, he is eating his own word!

[Jack Napier]

I accept that you don't want to accuse him unless there is something that proves 100% that he cheated against Cotto, but I'm saying that the argument that he did cheat is more convincing to most the the argument that he didn't. In fact, there is no argument that he didn't cheat, there's only an argument that he mightn't have cheated. I wouldn't have thought that he'd have cheated against Mosley without doing that against a prime Cotto, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

At the end of the of the day we can argue until we are blue in the face I have formed my own opinion you have obviously formed yours.

I believe Tony used those illegal wraps more than once quite possibly more than twice and his whole career has rightly been thrown into doubt he is a disgrace to boxing and should have never been allowed back into the ring.

both fair posts, respect