Originally posted by Roy Jones Jnr
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Has Floyd done enough to be considered up there alongside Ali and SRR?
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostI don't think that Mayweather even deserved to be mentioned on the same page with either Ali or Robinson, and at least 100 more. As for being the top 2 I don't think Ali qualifies. Nothing he has done even remotely resembles Robinson's achievments, nor Armstrong's nor Greb's nor a few more. Maybe the top 10-15, and in the top 4-5 heavyweights.
You also have to take into account that Ali was robbed of at least half of his prime years, only having a 3 year window for his prime (1964-1967).
What HW has a better resume than Ali??? Louis??? I don't think so.
Ali's best wins: Cooper, Liston, Patterson, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers.
Louis' best wins: Pastor, Mann, Schmeling, Lewis, Galento, Godoy, Burman, B. Baer, Conn, Mauriello, Walcott.
I'll take Ali's best wins over Louis, even though Louis is probably #2 ATG HW's in my book. H2H, Ali is hands down #1 in my eyes, in his prime.
As far as the GOAT list, in no order......Ali, Leonard, Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, Louis.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostA win over Canelo wouldn't mean a damn thing unless Canelo beats the someone like Kirkland first, or unless he went on to have a HOF career in the future.
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Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Postif he beats cotto a Canelo win would make his a unified and lineal champion at 154.that would give him his 4th lineal title and 9th world title
The reason the Cotto fight is good is because we know Cotto is good, and though he's not in his absolute prime since the Marg fight in 08', he's still good. And a ton of people were saying he'd lose to Yuri Foreman. It was also important for Floyd to get Cotto on his resume while Cotto is still good. A win over Canelo right now means NOTHING.
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Has Floyd held the unified Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight belts all at the same time? No? Well guess what? Henry Armstrong did. End thread.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostBut......a win over Canelo doesn't mean much yet. I don't give a f**k about him becoming lineal champ at 154, if Canelo hasn't done anything yet. If Canelo beats Kirkland, it's a really legit fight in my eyes. Until that day, it's a so-so C+/B- fight.
The reason the Cotto fight is good is because we know Cotto is good, and though he's not in his absolute prime since the Marg fight in 08', he's still good. And a ton of people were saying he'd lose to Yuri Foreman. It was also important for Floyd to get Cotto on his resume while Cotto is still good. A win over Canelo right now means NOTHING.
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and if he eands with cotto and canelo at 154 for wba,wbc and ring,lineal title..then Manny at 147 for the wbo.then retire with Martinez at 160 he'd have to be top 10 atg easily
he'd be
46-0
11 time champion in 6 divisions
5 division lineal champion
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