Take The Test!

[IMDAZED]

2 years to compromise > 2 years of continuously adding road blocks.

Some of us believe Manny was right in refusing those terms. But if the only way to get this fight done (Take The Test, baby!) then he had to cede, cos Floyd sure wasn't going to.

I mean, what is this? You want him to agree to the demands, he does - but the issue now is that he didn't accept the first time around? What has that got to do with what Floyd is doing right now?

You said yourself that if Floyd started ****ing around with the money demands, you'd blame him (yes, I noted you and other Floyd fans saying that at the time - cos in the back of my mind, I had this nagging feel that Floyd would do something like this).

You know that cannot be justified. You know Floyd should be all over this fight, he should be jumping on this ****.

Why isn't he?

Two years and the terms were what they were. Mayweather compromised as soon as he was given the opportunity. Pacquiao didn't. Well, not for two years. That's the difference.

[ThePrince]

What are you talking about?

Everyone knows the reason Floyd went on 'vacation' for a year and 1/2 was because Manny wouldn't take the test. He didn't feel safe.

If you the best, take the test. Take the test and we got a fight. The test- the only reason why Floyd has refused to fight Pacquiao for years.

Like I've been saying for YEARS, anyone who believes any of the above is a ****ing idiot.

[Daddy T]

both these guys are sliding, manny more visibly than floyd, but floyd is certainly slowing too. One of them is going to end up taking a shock loss at some point and the biggest fight ever will be scuppered.

[Porter's Dad]

You know, I don't see things in black and white. I guess because that's not the world we live in. And I don't pretend humans are devoid of emotion. If I offer you good terms and you instead ridicule, deny, conjure up lies and ultimately, walk away, I wouldn't be a man if you came back and found me in the same position.

Two years and the terms were what they were. Mayweather compromised as soon as he was given the opportunity. Pacquiao didn't. Well, not for two years. That's the difference.

Wow. That justification of Floyd moving the goal posts is bizarre and just so wrong.

[IMDAZED]

Wow. That justification of Floyd moving the goal posts is bizarre and just so wrong.

The difference is two plus years. You said compromise was the key to making the fight and Floyd compromised yet Manny still walked away. Two years later he finally pulls his head out of his rear, learns how to compromise and now he's doing something good. I think that's moving the goal post.

[Porter's Dad]

What are you talking about?

Everyone knows the reason Floyd went on 'vacation' for a year and 1/2 was because Manny wouldn't take the test. He didn't feel safe.

If you the best, take the test. Take the test and we got a fight. The test- the only reason why Floyd has refused to fight Pacquiao for years.

Like I've been saying for YEARS, anyone who believes any of the above is a ****ing idiot.

I'm glad I didn't invest much time/effort into the whole OST (OST! Remember that?!) discussions. What a complete waste of time.

I always felt the drugs issue was bogus. What a pathetic episode all round.

[PBFP4P]

You know, I don't see things in black and white. I guess because that's not the world we live in. And I don't pretend humans are devoid of emotion. If I offer you good terms and you instead ridicule, deny, conjure up lies and ultimately, walk away, I wouldn't be a man if you came back and found me in the same position.

he is not in the same position. he got what was the biggest obstacle the drug test he compromised to 14 days pacquiao walked away. floyd took it off the table which he shouldn't have compromised in the first place. pacquiao supposedly agreed to floyd ost demand. so no floyd wasnt in the same place. now floyd wants a bigger share of what had been agreed upon for years? if there was any fight that justified a 50/50 split is this one. not sure why you would try to justify this.

[IMDAZED]

he is not in the same position. he got what was the biggest obstacle the drug test he compromised to 14 days pacquiao walked away. floyd took it off the table which he shouldn't have compromised in the first place. pacquiao supposedly agreed to floyd ost demand. so no floyd wasnt in the same place. now floyd wants a bigger share of what had been agreed upon for years? if there was any fight that justified a 50/50 split is this one. not sure why you would try to justify this.

I hear you but I think you're missing what I'm saying. For starters, I believe the fight should be done 50-50. Always have. Don't really care who has done what PPV blah blah. It's just numbers. What I was trying to convey was that, I don't pretend that things exist in black and white. If I were trying to make a deal with you and asked you for something reasonable, also agreed on a split and, in turn, agreed to a stipulation you have...and then you crap all over me in the media, lie as to why you can't do what I'm asking, then walk away from the deal for no legit reason...you can't expect me to be standing there with the same paper in hand. I'd be saying kiss my ass too. Just applying real life logic.

[Porter's Dad]

The difference is two plus years. You said compromise was the key to making the fight and Floyd compromised yet Manny still walked away. Two years later he finally pulls his head out of his rear, learns how to compromise and now he's doing something good. I think that's moving the goal post.

This discussion has really gone down a daft route.

The issue here is this.

Manny is serious and ready about taking the fight. (I don't commend him for this, as he's been content to fight over-matched opponents for a while now).

The issue is - why isn't Floyd all over this? Why isn't he content to take 50% of a huge pot and whoop on Pac (like most think he will).

Why is he adding a further complication to the plot?

I mean, a 38 year old JMM just showed up Pac.

Floyd should be all over this fight, it's his for the taking.

Why the **** would you add a further road-block when the 2 year old one has been cleared?

[One Of A Kind]

Mayweather is all about his money, yet he is not jumping on easily his most lucrative fight contract. Speaks volumes tbh.