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  • #81
    Bla bla bla...but I agree, I, like everyone else is tired of seeing the same movie over again. The movie where Pac is outboxed and outskilled and still gets the W. Yes, that IS the movie I and many are tired of seeing. Everyone knows Manny lost the third fight....Manny himself, his camp and his fans. Watch the last episode of that Roach series on HBO, and you see that they knew they lost, all of them. Is what it is, I have seen worse decisions sure, but the truth is the truth. It is just sad to see such a legendary talented technician like JMM get **** on over and over again. It is quite amusing though that per the logic of the previous decisions, JMM fought Pac the best he ever has in the 3rd fight...performed better, and outboxed Pac more...yet the other 2 fights were a Draw and a SD? LOL...ok so how does the last one not mean a win for JMM? It makes NO sense...period. To give you an example of a Pacfan...I watched the fight in a house with 13 Pac fans....and all of them sat there in silence the whole fight, jaws open, teary eyed and said Pac is getting beat, OMG he is losing this one, this is terrible. Then the BS decision was announced, and they all jumped up cheering, talking ****, saying how Pac whipped JMM, how he once again hung tough and defeated his nemesis etc. There are Pac fans for you lol. Pac could tell them the sun is out at midnight and they would believe it. Sad.

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    • #82
      marquez dominating manny is a myth that floyd fans concocted to make themselves feel better !!!! the fact is manny out landed marquez !!! the fact is maquez took his foot off the gas in the chjampionship rounds because his nimrod trainer told him too !!! the fact is marquez refused to engage in the championship rounds because he was scare manny would knock him down !!!! the fact is championship rounds are what wins fights and marquez has no one to blame but himself and his dunce trainer for letting it slip though his fingers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • #83
        Originally posted by treason1 View Post
        marquez dominating manny is a myth that floyd fans concocted to make themselves feel better !!!! the fact is manny out landed marquez !!! the fact is maquez took his foot off the gas in the chjampionship rounds because his nimrod trainer told him too !!! the fact is marquez refused to engage in the championship rounds because he was scare manny would knock him down !!!! the fact is championship rounds are what wins fights and marquez has no one to blame but himself and his dunce trainer for letting it slip though his fingers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        So what is your point?????

        Pacquiao vs. Marquez 1 (May 8, 2004)

        Pacquiao's total punches landed/thrown: 148/639 for 23 percent
        Marquez's total punches landed/thrown: 158/547 for 29 percent
        Pacquiao's total power punches landed/thrown: 100/231
        Marquez's total power punches landed/thrown: 122/339


        Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2 (Mar. 15, 2008)

        Pacquiao's total punches landed/thrown: 157/619 for 25 percent.
        Marquez's total punches landed/thrown: 172/511 for 34 percent.
        Pacquiao's total jabs landed/thrown: 43/314
        Marquez's total jabs landed/thrown: 42/201
        Pacquiao's total power punches landed/thrown: 114/305
        Marquez's total power punches landed/thrown: 130/310

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...rst-two-fights

        You should be more concerned about those water bottles...
        Last edited by WESS; 02-28-2012, 08:40 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
          Your a fan boy. Im a fan. No point in debating.

          My Current P4P

          1. Andre Ward (unlike others, fought the best)
          2. Manny Pacquiao (interchangeable with 3)
          3. Floyd Mayweather (interchangeable with 2)
          4. Nonito Donaire (future)
          5. Juan Marquez (legendary)

          9 out of 10 theory...for every 10 people you meet, 9 will be ****** and/or ignorant, and most of you fanboys here are proof of that. Floyd, Pac, Sergio whoever...ill rip and criticize them when its needed
          Lol nice sig.

          http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

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          • #85
            Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
            your even dead wrong there too pac hasnt fought anybody at the top at welterweight at allllll hes fought a buncha faded 'NAMES' coming off decisive losses in some cases total destructions, Mayweather doesnt exactley face the best either but he fights slightly better opp.he fought hatton when hatton was undefeated, he fought mosley when pac wanted no part of mosley he absolutley ducked mosley, he fough ortiz pac ducked ortiz too, because ortiz was badly whupping pac in sparring as roach attested to.then he wanted to rematch cotto really??? woulda been the most unwanted unwarranted non-competetive cherry pick in history but thats what pac does he seeks the weakest most winnable comp, he did that with JMm also only it completley backfired on him.

            dude its one thing to be a fan another to be completley blind just looks at floyds last 4 Performances then look at pacs last 4 THATS SUPPOSED TO BEAT MAYWEATHER???? I DONT THINK SO BUDDY PAC IS A WHOLE LEVEL BENEATH JR IN THE RING.WHOSE DOMINATING MORE? WHO HAS BETTER DEFENSE? WHOS FASTER? WHOS OFFENSE IS BETTER? WHOS CONNECT PERCENTAGE ACCURACY /CONNECT % IS HIGHER?WHO HAS BETTER FOOTSPEED/WORK?WHOM HAS SUPERB BOXING SKILSS? ITS MAYWEATHER! DUDE MAYWEATHER HAS HARDLY EVEN LOST A ROUND SINCE HIS UNRETIREMENT AN THATS ALONG TIME AGO! AND YOUR WELTERWEIGHT ARGUMENT IS MOOT BECAUSE PAC JUST LOST TO A LITEWEIGHT! PROVING ONCE AND FOR ALL HIS WELTERWEIGHT FOES WERE ALL 2ND OR 3RD RATE BUMS!

            I DONT EVEN LIKE MAYWEATHER BUT ITS LONG OVERDUE TO BE HONEST ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE DUDE MAYWEATHER WOULD DOMINATE THAT CLOWN, AND ITS NO ACCIDENT THAT THEY HAVENT FOUGHT, ARUM AND MANNY ARENT READY TO GET HUMILIATED AGAIN OR WORSE.
            Wow , I love the passion !!! Problem is its all screwed up,,bad , real bad !

            Take Hatton, he looked sick at WW,,,,what did JR have him fight at ? WW

            Hatton chased the runner until he just bummed rushed. The ref was on JRs side and it still took the runner to swing as he was running hahahaha

            PAC nearly KILLED Hatton in TWO

            Take ODH,,,JR lost that fight, looked ******, and all ODH needed was about three jabs , don't you remember ??They gave it to Jr on a split decision

            PAC made ODH QUIT on his stool

            Take Cotto,,,JR DUCKED COTTO during Cotto's PRIME

            PAC destroyed COTTO in his prime

            Take Margo,,,,JR DUCKED Margo during Margo's PRIME

            PAC DESTROYED MARGO

            Take MOSLEY,,,,Mosley had Jr on ***** STREET and doing the funky shicken, then Mosley quit fighting

            PAC put Mosley down bad, real bad and then for the first time Mosley ran and told his corner he wanted to QUIT

            Jr says Pac is a cheater but what did he do for boxing when he CHEAPSHOTTED ORTIZ ??? Did he lose his cool, get in Jr,s head hahahaha

            The ONLY fighter you can talk about is JMM.

            Ali had NORTON and Frazier

            Look what Foreman did to both and then look what Ali did to FOREMAN

            it might help you if you settled down and studied the fighters and fights in the past 50 years and what you will see is styles make fights.

            Which fighter has Jr whupped that makes him so great and of authority that he can make demands ??

            What ever JR has done PAC has done better

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            • #86
              Roach and Paquiao know they lost and thats why they want the fight, but they'll probably wait until they're sure Marquez is done.. Whats up with Paquiao saying that he don't get hurt when he fights Marquez, thats bull**** because I've seen Pacquiao crying in between rounds of all three fights. I think it was after the tenth round of the last fight. Marquez exposes Manny Paquiao and he hurts his reputation every time...

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              • #87
                In other words, JMM wasn't old enough last time. Not one person can say any 1 of their 3 fights wasn't a good ol sit on the edge of the couch kinda fight. We have eyes, we do judge from home.


                At the end of the day Floyd still has his 0. All Pac has is 3 great fights against a Lightweight great. I am glad someone finally called Pac on his jibberish... WHY THE FOOK DOESN'T PAC GET A TRANSLATER? instead of wasting time trying to sound like he knows english. maybe we could get some real fookin answers from him instead of botched excuses.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                  Isn't the truth that Pac has fought all the elite prime Welter weights and JR has NOT ?

                  Why has JR not fought the prime elite Welter weights over the past 8 years YET Claims the P4P throne ?????????

                  Why did JR duck the PRIME Elite WW's like , well , for instance , MARGO and COTTO ?????

                  Please don't waste our time with some spin
                  No it isn't true.

                  You are confusing NAME RECOGNITION with actual rank. Rank is what matters in boxing, not a reputation or name.

                  Pacquiao NEVER fought DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito or Mosley when they were on top or winning. Therefore, it does not equal ELITE.

                  My man .. that's the REAL spin.

                  You're naming fighters like they're pokemon cards. Boxing doesn't work like that. All the fighters Manny fought were already beaten by other fighters immediately before he fought them barring insignificant tune ups.

                  For you to claim that Manny's WW competition was elite when in fact they were all ranked 4th or lower when he faced them shows that you are being disingenuous. I doubt that you are that ****** as you have written pretty good posts.

                  Well ... that and you haven't really named anyone that Floyd ducked. Fact is that Cotto declined a fight with Mayweather, and Margarito lost to Paul Williams when he was campaigning for a fight.

                  You've got to do better than that. I don't do "spin". Apparently you do.

                  My point is made. Either you present something to refute it or let's move on.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    So what is your point?????

                    Pacquiao vs. Marquez 1 (May 8, 2004)

                    Pacquiao's total punches landed/thrown: 148/639 for 23 percent
                    Marquez's total punches landed/thrown: 158/547 for 29 percent
                    Pacquiao's total power punches landed/thrown: 100/231
                    Marquez's total power punches landed/thrown: 122/339


                    Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2 (Mar. 15, 2008)

                    Pacquiao's total punches landed/thrown: 157/619 for 25 percent.
                    Marquez's total punches landed/thrown: 172/511 for 34 percent.
                    Pacquiao's total jabs landed/thrown: 43/314
                    Marquez's total jabs landed/thrown: 42/201
                    Pacquiao's total power punches landed/thrown: 114/305
                    Marquez's total power punches landed/thrown: 130/310

                    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...rst-two-fights

                    You should be more concerned about those water bottles...
                    im not concerned about the water bottles that were thrown by angry classless floyd fans !!!!!! but thats neither here nor there !!!!! you pointed out the stats in the first fight but your forgot the most major stat that manny knocked marquez on his ass 4 times !!!! and a idiot judge didnt no how to add and scored the fight wrong !!!!! thus robbing manny from a win but unlike marquez the sore sport who is backed by a drug lord , manny didnt cry he went demanded a rematch !!!! in the 2nd fight it was close but you have to remember manny knocked him down ONCE AGAIN !!!! and even though marquez used a cheap trick by dilibratley headbutting manny to cut him manny still won THE MOST IMPORTANT ROUNDS THE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS !!!!!! in a close fight the championship rounds are what are the most important !!!!! and unlike marquez who ran and hid manny engaged and thats why the judges gave him the W!!!! you have to take the championship belt from the champion point blank period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by the way im sorry i didnt mean to own you like that but you asked for it , just like marquez asked for the ass whooping that manny gave him !!!!!!!!!!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by treason1 View Post
                      im not concerned about the water bottles that were thrown by angry classless floyd fans !!!!!!
                      Pac was fighting JMM. Did you ever stop and think that it was a JMM fan? lol naaa probably not, as your a huge Floyd fan.

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