Sergio beating Pavlik created alot of champions...

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  • Larry the boss
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    #11
    Originally posted by JoeWbbmest311
    The result of that fight set of an almost perfect chain of events for Top Rank and Golden Boy. The only card that didn't fall into place was Jacobs in his failed attempt to accept a title that was being handed to him; or so we thought.

    It raises the question; Had Pavlik won that fight, what would the status of 154 and 160 be right now? Sergio probably would have went back down and campaigned at 154, hanging on to his WBC title (or who knows it might have been stripped from him for losing to Pavlik) Manny probably would have never had a chance to win a 154 LB title.

    Either way, Pavlik winning that fight would have = Chavez and Canelo with no belts right now; unless Kelly went to 168

    So if Sergio has anyone to blame for the Chavez fight not happening, it is himself (please nobody take that seriously)

    We all have to suffer for Arum's misstep of matching Pavlik with Martinez instead of Williams.
    exactly.that fight changed history

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      #12
      Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
      Another case of money over belts in boxing. It used to be you needed the belts to make money in boxing now it is the belts need the fighters. Every fight is 12 rounds for some unknown title. Honestly Ring should be the only belt we concern ourselves with....
      true,and thats the only belt he has left the ring.unless you count the Diamond belt

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        No he didn't Larry because none of those belt holders really are champions.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          No he didn't Larry because none of those belt holders really are champions.
          tell that to the history books man

          made manny-8 division champion

          made canelo-younger champion ever

          both of these with his wbc 154 belt taken away for no reason


          then the legend continues at 160 with Chavez being handed his wbc belt at 160

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            #15
            Originally posted by Larryx2011
            tell that to the history books man

            made manny-8 division champion

            made canelo-younger champion ever

            both of these with his wbc 154 belt taken away for no reason


            then the legend continues at 160 with Chavez being handed his wbc belt at 160
            The difference between Canelo who is not a real champion just a top guy now and Manny winning some vacant belt is that Sergio beating the man who beat the man who beat the man makes him the undisputed champion at 160, 154 doesn't have that and has not in some time.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              The difference between Canelo who is not a real champion just a top guy now and Manny winning some vacant belt is that Sergio beating the man who beat the man who beat the man makes him the undisputed champion at 160, 154 doesn't have that and has not in some time.
              like i said tell that to the history books cause thats how it will be viewed

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                #17
                Originally posted by Larryx2011
                like i said tell that to the history books cause thats how it will be viewed
                Well they can view things anyway they want, I am watching the current boxing landscape in real time and know the truth that is all that matters.

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                  #18
                  Cough beltholders cough.

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