If you can pick one boxer during his prime to be around today who will it be?

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  • DLT
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    #21
    Also, if anyone thinks that a prime Mosley beats the version of Floyd that fought him recently then they are smoking. Floyd is just a better fighter. I always tell people to watch this clip. This is Mosley in the very fight before the 1st Oscar fight. Look at the way he fights. Its just like Senior said. Its jittery. Wasted movements & energy. A master boxer with set timing like Floyd wouldve always eaten that up.

    The only way Shane ever beats Floyd is if Floyd beats himself by fighting overly defensive which he has done at times in his career but if he came out and fought like he did when he fought Shane recently then he owns Shane. If they both are on there A games then Floyd is better. He's just the much better overall fighter and the same goes for both Tito & Oscar.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #22
      Originally posted by DLT
      who compared them? People always twist things on here. No one is saying that is the same Shane but the point is that Shane beat him and Floyd is at the very least on that level and I think he is on a higher level. The point is dont tell me that this version of Floyd who has grown nicely into WW would be scared to move up to fight a prime Oscar when it would be a mega money fight. Hell No and he would think he would win, as alot of others would think he would win.

      Again, thats not to even say that Floyd beats Oscar or Tito. I think he beats them both but you can debate it. The point is that he said that Floyd wouldnt move up to fight those guys and Ive given the reasons why he would. No doubt in my mind about it


      We're talking about an entirely different person/fighter back then. That Shane would have been a big problem for floyd and floyd would have stayed far away from him.

      Anyone would fight delahoya for the dough. Of course you would say that anyone would fight manny for 40-50 milly but that still hasnt happened yet.

      Floyd maybe would go up to fight felix, but i just dont know for sure. He sure as hell doesnt prove it by his actions since 140.

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        #23
        Imagine what Eubank or Benn would bring excitement one of them joined in the Super 6 tourney.

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        • DLT
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          #24
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          We're talking about an entirely different person/fighter back then. That Shane would have been a big problem for floyd and floyd would have stayed far away from him.

          Anyone would fight delahoya for the dough. Of course you would say that anyone would fight manny for 40-50 milly but that still hasnt happened yet.

          Floyd maybe would go up to fight felix, but i just dont know for sure. He sure as hell doesnt prove it by his actions since 140.
          Pacquaio & Sergio have something those guys dont. They are Southpaws. If Pac was a righty then they wouldnt even be talking about a Floyd fight. Floyd destroys him all day. Those other guys may be bigger & better than Pac in there prime but its almost canceled out by them being a righty which would make Floyd alot more comfortable.

          Again, there are things about Floyd that people overlook. One is that until recently he's been very small. He's still really small now but back then he was even moreso. He just moved up for the pay day but on size alone, he had no business at those higher weights.

          Thats why it was unfair for people to compare him to those guys back in the day but thats not the case now. He's bigger & stronger than ever before. The downside is he's much older now but I still think him at 33-34 beats those guys in there prime at WW but at the very least, he wouldnt fear them and none of them dominate him in any way at all. I think Floyd truly believes that no righty can land on him clean in his prime.

          People go crazy now when Shane & JMM do it even when they only land 2 punches the whole fight and even those are suspect, due to Floyd's inactivity which is the other thing people overlook. He's so good that people hold him to a high standard but if anyone else took the time he does off, people would pick them to lose or make excuses for a bad performance. If Floyd is active then Shane or JMM dont even land the couple of punches that they did land. They only land them because of rust.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #25
            Originally posted by DLT
            Pacquaio & Sergio have something those guys dont. They are Southpaws. If Pac was a righty then they wouldnt even be talking about a Floyd fight. Floyd destroys him all day. Those other guys may be bigger & better than Pac in there prime but its almost canceled out by them being a righty which would make Floyd alot more comfortable.
            Again, there are things about Floyd that people overlook. One is that until recently he's been very small. He's still really small now but back then he was even moreso. He just moved up for the pay day but on size alone, he had no business at those higher weights.
            Thats why it was unfair for people to compare him to those guys back in the day but thats not the case now. He's bigger & stronger than ever before. The downside is he's much older now but I still think him at 33-34 beats those guys in there prime at WW but at the very least, he wouldnt fear them and none of them dominate him in any way at all. I think Floyd truly believes that no righty can land on him clean in his prime.
            People go crazy now when Shane & JMM do it even when they only land 2 punches the whole fight and even those are suspect, due to Floyd's inactivity which is the other thing people overlook. He's so good that people hold him to a high standard but if anyone else took the time he does off, people would pick them to lose or make excuses for a bad performance. If Floyd is active then Shane or JMM dont even land the couple of punches that they did land. They only land them because of rust.
            Fact is all the other greats, hof'ers, and borderline guys around floyd managed to fight each other. Say what you want, but that's all conjecture and stuff made up in your head.

            You either walk it or talk it and floyd clearly talks it. I know you love all this speculation. But thats all it is. At least wit guys like shane, we know who he'd fight.

            There's always a reason/excuse with floyd. I see you buy into them and even help create more excuses for him and his fans with these lefty theories.

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              #26
              Originally posted by DLT
              yeah I saw them. I saw 2 great young fighters, just like Floyd is. They dont have aything he should fear. Tito got boxed circles around by Oscar, X, & Winky straight clowned him. Even Vargas was outboxing him but decided to slug. Dont tell me Floyd didnt have a chance. Oscar was good but you could argue he lost to Pea, Ike, and Shane beat him clearly so dont act like Floyd had no chance against them e****ally at that weight
              But but but Winky beats the brakes off of Floyd too & the Mosley that beat Oscar at 147 does too. Vargas was young prime & undefeated when he fought Tito & got ruined. Floyd would lose to a prime oscar & Tito at 147 & Shane. I suggest you really watch some tape of those guys. Bazooka Ike mighta beat his a$$ too. You're naming other great fighters like they were garbage or something.

              This is you-"well Tito lost to Winky so.......................". So what the hell does that mean Winky was a futh****ing beast. so was bazooka Ike at 147, Floyd would go through hell dealing with that jab.

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                #27
                Alexis Arguello or Az Nelson at 130, put Broner in with either of them.
                It would probably make my year .

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                • DLT
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  But but but Winky beats the brakes off of Floyd too & the Mosley that beat Oscar at 147 does too. Vargas was young prime & undefeated when he fought Tito & got ruined. Floyd would lose to a prime oscar & Tito at 147 & Shane. I suggest you really watch some tape of those guys. Bazooka Ike mighta beat his a$$ too. You're naming other great fighters like they were garbage or something.

                  This is you-"well Tito lost to Winky so.......................". So what the hell does that mean Winky was a futh****ing beast. so was bazooka Ike at 147, Floyd would go through hell dealing with that jab.
                  Dont talk to me like Im some rookie. Ive been around boxing. I dont need to watch tape because I watched every single fight you just named when it happened.

                  Again, all of you are twisting the words. Im not dissing those losses or tough fights. My point is that Floyd is at the least on the level of all those guys so why would he be so scared to move up & fight Tito & Oscar as you said. He wouldnt. Thats what this was about.

                  If I say that Oscar or Tito lost to so & so. Im not using that as a triangle theory or a diss. My point is that dont act like they were so many miles ahead of Floyd that he couldnt have challanged them. Thats how you are acting. Im not acting like those guys are bums. My point is that you are the one making it sound like Floyd is a bum. Like he wouldnt dare do that and he would have no chance. I was dis*****g that.

                  Everything you said in your last post against me, should be reversed towards you. It was you who was making Floyd sound like the bum and Im saying if other great fighters could beat them or give them trouble then why would another great fighter in Floyd not think he could beat them or why would you think he would automatically lose to them. Man people on these boards twist words so much and everyone acts like they are right and you are an idiot if you disagree.

                  People act like Floyd is just an average guy. I mean seriously, how can anyone make a statement that Floyd cant be the likes of a Mosley, Oscar, Tito, and would never fight them? I mean atleast give me Hearns, SRL, or something like that. Least give me the best of the best or super huge guys that are too big for Floyd. Again, thats not a diss. Thats just saying its disrespectful to act like Floyd doesnt belong in the same sentence as them at WW.

                  Again, maybe the Floyd who was a WW back in the day would have hell but a more stronger filled out Floyd like he is now would give those guys hell. Also, go read some of my post if you think Im dissin those guys. I was just in a recent Mosley thread that LarryX made about him falling off and I said how he fought top guys that nearly anyone wouldve lost to so I am certainly not using that last theory that you said. My point is they are all great fighters.

                  You guys are the one's acting like Floyd doesnt belong in the same sentence as them at WW, would have no chance against them, would never fight them. Its not me
                  Last edited by DLT; 02-27-2012, 08:01 AM.

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Dont talk to me like Im some rookie. Ive been around boxing. I dont need to watch tape because I watched every single fight you just named when it happened.

                    Again, all of you are twisting the words. Im not dissing those losses or tough fights. My point is that Floyd is at the least on the level of all those guys so why would he be so scared to move up & fight Tito & Oscar as you said. He wouldnt. Thats what this was about.

                    If I say that Oscar or Tito lost to so & so. Im not using that as a triangle theory or a diss. My point is that dont act like they were so many miles ahead of Floyd that he couldnt have challanged them. Thats how you are acting. Im not acting like those guys are bums. My point is that you are the one making it sound like Floyd is a bum. Like he wouldnt dare do that and he would have no chance. I was dis*****g that.

                    Everything you said in your last post against me, should be reversed towards you. It was you who was making Floyd sound like the bum and Im saying if other great fighters could beat them or give them trouble then why would another great fighter in Floyd not think he could beat them or why would you think he would automatically lose to them. Man people on these boards twist words so much and everyone acts like they are right and you are an idiot if you disagree.

                    People act like Floyd is just an average guy. I mean seriously, how can anyone make a statement that Floyd cant be the likes of a Mosley, Oscar, Tito, and would never fight them? I mean atleast give me Hearns, SRL, or something like that. Least give me the best of the best or super huge guys that are too big for Floyd. Again, thats not a diss. Thats just saying its disrespectful to act like Floyd doesnt belong in the same sentence as them at WW. Again, maybe the Floyd who was a WW back in the day would have hell but a more stronger filled out Floyd like he is now would give those guys hell
                    I believe that Tito or Oscar prime at 147, beat Floyd. I don't see anyone on Floyd's resume to suggest otherwise. If you think Floyd beats those 2 prime at 147, good for you. I would never, ever bring up losses to Winky, or prime Shane or Sweet pea as anything to be ashamed of.

                    Both were huge welterweights, with genuine power. Oscar had speed a great jab & could pull the trigger at will.

                    Tito had the 1 punch power, stamina & agressive style made to sink small fighters.

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