im calling it now Manny will ko Bradley in 8
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yeah a lot of people thought marquez won. even the majority of people. i already said that. you aren't providing any new information. you said everyone thought marquez won and that's not true at all. you are just cherry picking articles and opinions to make your case appear stronger than it is. i could do the same with may-castillo. the majority of people thought castillo was robbed. do i really have to pull out all the articles from the archives? yet you constantly pretend like they are 2 different things because you are a hypocrite and a fanboy. according to you mayweather dominated and pac robbed marquez. why? what's the difference? because you love floyd and hate pac. and i didn't skew the numbers. i found the poll with thousands of votes instead of a boxingscene poll with like 40 votes. http://boxing.about.com/b/2011/11/13...arquez-iii.htmrofl where did they random polls come from? You know I could do the exact same thing right? I could post the same **** but skew the numbers to my liking just like you did. And if you're going by polls on NSB then you'd see there were many that were 90% Marquez won 10% Pac won. You can also check the HBO poll and ESPN poll. 70% Marquez, 30% Pac
Oh and there's also this:
Not according to these guys, who ALL know much more about boxing than you do.....
In the pantheon of disgraceful decisions in the history of boxing this one will
go down as one of the most notorious. Juan Manuel Marquez, at the age of 38,
has just seen his best performance in the ring to comprehensively out box, out
think, out work, and out hustle Manny Pacquiao over 12 rounds stolen from him
by three judges who have brought shame to the sport. It was an historic
performance. It should have resulted in a unanimous decision in favour of Juan
Manuel Marquez. Instead he lost and so did the sport of boxing.,,,,
http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=29847&more=1
After 12 rounds of what appeared to many at ringside and nearly all of the crowd
of 16,368 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena to be a solid win for Marquez, two ringside
judges saw a fight only a businessman or a blind man could have seen.
Somehow Judge Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 116-112 for Pacquiao and Dave Moretti
had it 115-113 for the WBO welterweight titleholder. The third, Robert Hoyle, had it
a draw 114-114. Meanwhile, a number of ringside observers saw Marquez winning 116-112
and as much as 117-112. When Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, was asked in the
ring if he agreed his fighter had beaten Marquez again he waited for a moment before
answering.
“The fight was close,’’ Roach said. “It was very close.’’
Not really. Not unless you brought a pencil to ringside with you.
Later he would say he felt his man pulled it out in the last two rounds while also
conceding “it could have gone either way.’’ As endorsements go, it wasn’t exactly a
ringing one. What was more telling was an hour later when he said, “It’s the kind
of fight I don’t want to do again but we have to. S__t. He’s given us problems three
times.....
http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ss-to-pacquiao
Pacquaio “Wins,” Marquez is “robbed” and boxing “loses”.....
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-boxing-loses-
The opinions of many within the ringside media and those at the post-fight
press conference were somewhat mixed, but the overwhelming majority felt that
the legend from Mexico City had been robbed. The general consensus is that
Marquez’ counter punching controlled the pace of the contest and that he
landed the harder shots. By: Mike Sloan, ringside in Las Vegas.
By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to
say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com
Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113
SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113
Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !!
Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !!
Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne
Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop
OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya
Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell
ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH
Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham
Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"
Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin
Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward
Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."
Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"
Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"
Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."
Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY
Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
#LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas
Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull
Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan
Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine
Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100
Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp
Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456
Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProv
Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won!
Marvin Hagler said Marquez won!
Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won!
Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won!
Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won
Andre Direll said Marquez won!
Zab Judah said Marquez won!
Steve Cunningham said Marquez won!
Anthony Direll said Marquez won!
Matthew Macklin said Marquez won!
Andre Ward said Marquez won!
Terry Norris said Marquez won!
Andre Berto said Marquez won!
Omar Henry said Marquez won!
Chris Arreola said Marquez won!
Rashad Holloway said Marquez won!
Fernando Vargas said Marquez won!
Juan Diaz said Marquez won!
Amir Khan said Marquez won!
Anthony Mundine said Marquez won!
Erik Morales said Marquez won!
Jean Pascal said Marquez won!
Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won!
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won!
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won!
Jorge Linares said Marquez won!
Peter Manfredo said Marquez won!
Michael Marley said Marquez won!
Darren Barker said Marquez won!
Marcos Maidana said Marquez won!
Raul Martinez said Marquez won!
J'Leon Love said Marquez won!
Lou DiBella said Marquez won!
Josesito Lopez said Marquez won!
Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won!
Sergio Martinez said Marquez won!
here's the fight-news poll where 46% thought pac either won or drew. http://www.fight-news.com/Boxing/pac...ck-poll-101755 take out dash
also go watch the floyd mayweather deception if you want a real detailed breakdown of the fight. i'm guessing you don't want that though.Last edited by daggum; 02-27-2012, 03:54 AM.Comment
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I know what you are getting at and you cant always tell entirely by Facial features but this is not a good example keep bringing Pac being more marked up against Clottey?You need to re watch the fight in super slo mo.
Every time Pac would throw that repetitive combination he would get countered with a huge right hook by Marquez. Every single time.
And again with the whole "swollen face" thing. How new to boxing does a person have to be to still believe in this theory? With your logic Pac lost to Clottey.
Clottey was highly marked up and his skin on face was purple but his dark skin tone camouflaged it mostly, but you cant ignore this because of it. Too many people have insinuated Pac was more marked for me to ignore it any longer. Clottey was more marked up mexican style. So clottey will join the list with DLH, Cotto, JMM, Diaz, Morales and Barrera and SSM etc.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-27-2012, 04:24 AM.Comment
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No he won't Bradley knows he cannot stand in front of Manny. Besides when was the last time Pacman fought anyone with a heartbeat?? What Cotto at a mannyweight of 145? Or the Marquez he got a gift over?? IMO Bradley sons them both at 147.
People act like they never seen Bradley box. He outboxed 2 very good fighters & out fought the rest.Comment
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He's going to smother, I think. He has a decided advantage in inside fighting and probably has an advantage in strength as well, so I think he will take every opportunity to land a shot and move inside, so he can land some body shots and clinch. The danger is in catching shots moving in, but Bradley isn't Marquez or Mosley, and should not exclusively try to copy either.Bradley said he's not going to stand infront of Manny, which is obviously a smart move. I am rooting for Bradley, as I am a Bradley fan, but I still got Pac in this fight. He should still beat Bradley, and I think he will. This will probably turn into an ugly fight, but Bradley is a serious threat to Pacquiao.
If Bradley wins, I won't be shocked or anything, but I'll still be a bit surprised.
At times, it seems like Tim is content fighting from the outside and boxing, but then he'll try and fight on the inside and **** as well. I'd like to see him box more against Pac, but I am just not sure what Bradley is going to do. If he shows up and keeps Pac at a distance, and fights smart on the inside, he can beat Manny.
I still expect Manny to win a decision though.Comment
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Mayweather-Castillo 1 is comparable to the first 2 Marquez-Pac fights in regards to them being close fights that could have gone either way.
The third fight? Not so much.Comment
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