Disrespect towards Roy Jones Jr.

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  • Keleneki
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    #11
    Originally posted by SugaShane
    The man had almost the most talent ever (behind Sugar Ray Leonard) but the quality of competition just wasn't there. I'd say if he fought either Benn or Eubank and won then he would get a lot more respect. Ever since he met G-Man in the ams he knew his chin was made of china, so he didn't take risks.
    That's what I always thought as well. And then after what happened to McClellen against Benn ...

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    • BLOODSHED
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      #12
      Well said. No one is denying his talent and natural ability, we're questioning his heart.
      Originally posted by SugaShane
      The man had almost the most talent ever (behind Sugar Ray Leonard) but the quality of competition just wasn't there. I'd say if he fought either Benn or Eubank and won then he would get a lot more respect. Ever since he met G-Man in the ams he knew his chin was made of china, so he didn't take risks.

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      • THE REAL NINJA
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        #13
        i dont think he had a bad chin he just never got hit..after years of never getting hit when you finally do your going to get hurt..same as any fighter after a long layoff cant take a punch the same as before..i know ali an foreman did but not most fighters

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        • Truth
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          #14
          Originally posted by TuPrincipe
          Why do the lot of you on this forum believe Roy Jones Jr. to be overated?

          I hear the bias of some of you claiming Hopkins to be the best MW ever, then why isn't Roy Jones Jr. in a higher regard when instead of milking divisions he took challenges.

          I will be the first to say that He was the reason some fights weren't made, but the man won ninety percent of his rounds vs. opposition.

          I know there should and will always be skeptics vs. every fighter, but why Roy Jones? Many predicted his downfall when He was put in with Ruiz, but as soon as He won that fight Ruiz was labelled as an awful champion.

          What are your thoughts?
          Roy is like Tyson. You like him or you hate him. He is also like Tyson in that people say he never faught anybody. But both will be hall of famers...

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            #15
            Tyson beat a lot of good people in his day and was always dangerous with either hand. He was the youngest heavyweight champ and theres a reason why... he's good.
            Originally posted by 23_THE TRUTH_34
            Roy is like Tyson. You like him or you hate him. He is also like Tyson in that people say he never faught anybody. But both will be hall of famers...

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            • Truth
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bloodshed
              Tyson beat a lot of good people in his day and was always dangerous with either hand. He was the youngest heavyweight champ and theres a reason why... he's good.
              You don't have to tell me that man. You know I am part of Team Tyson.lol

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              • Tarver is my dad
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                #17
                Roy Jones is one of those fighters you will either love or hate. Roy Jones without a doubt had the most talent and physical gifts of any boxers I have ever seen. However, his legacy will probably never be as great as boxers such as Sugar Ray Leonard or Thomas Hearns. Could he have beaten these two fighters? Most likely. But due to the fact that Roy was considered "too great" is what made him "less great." Throughout his career, he made hall of fame fighters and good fighters look like bums, so people started questioning if his competiton was even that good. I put him in the top 15 P4P of all time.

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                • Super_Lightweight
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                  #18
                  hmm

                  There are plenty of fighters who fought in a weakish era and are respected as greats: Jack Johnson, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Marciano, Monzon, Hopkins, etc.

                  There are plenty of fighters who fought more average fighters than great fighters and are respected as greats. It would be highly unusual for any fighter to have more greats on his resume than any regular guys.

                  Roy defeated, in his prime, everyone he ever faced in convincing fashion. Many of them were good opponents, and some were greats. Haters try to say Roy is a "fraud" and so forth, and when they finally hit the lottery when Roy lost at 35 yrs old, they tried to say "We knew it all along!"

                  Bull****. Roy beat Montell Griffin, Eric Harding, John Ruiz, Bernard Hopkins, Antonio Tarver, Mike McCallum, Virgil Hill, Jorge Castro, and a who's who list of former/would be champs such as Clinton Woods, Reggie Johnson, Eric Lucas, Julio Gonzalez, and Vinny Pazienza.

                  Bert Sugar respects Roy as an all time great, and I'd just love to see someone sit in a chair across from him and try to say Roy is not an all time great, especially for a whack ass reason like he didn't beat Nigel Benn.

                  Only haters don't respect Roy as a boxing great, period.

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                  • KidBlackie
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                    #19
                    [[[[I know there should and will always be skeptics vs. every fighter, but why Roy Jones? Many predicted his downfall when He was put in with Ruiz, but as soon as He won that fight Ruiz was labelled as an awful champion.

                    What are your thoughts?]]]]
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                    More like what were you thinking when you agreed to be president of Ruiz Fan Glee Club? It seems you're shameless!

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                    • THE REAL NINJA
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KidBlackie
                      [[[[I know there should and will always be skeptics vs. every fighter, but why Roy Jones? Many predicted his downfall when He was put in with Ruiz, but as soon as He won that fight Ruiz was labelled as an awful champion.

                      What are your thoughts?]]]]
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                      More like what were you thinking when you agreed to be president of Ruiz Fan Glee Club? It seems you're shameless!
                      ruiz was labelled a bad champ way before the jones fight

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