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  • #41
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View Post
    Clottey never ran from Pacquiao, go re-watch that, what he did was go into a shell for most of the fight. He rarely ever opened up. He pretty much quit in my opinion. The thing is, Clottey's style is dependent on his opponent being in front of him after they're done throwing, so I can't imagine Clottey ever beating a fighter like Tim Bradley who will go in and out on him. Clottey isn't a counter puncher either, hardly ever counters.
    I didn't mean he literally ran like mosley, but going into a shell and backing into a corner not throwing much and getting booed for the majority of the fight is basically considered running or fighting to survive.

    kinda off subject but by the way I'm big fan of Solomon and really wish they would give him a shot on a more main stream level, he's got real potential to be up there with the limited amount of stars right now, but he's running out of time and not getting any younger..

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
      This is way half of you fans pretend to know about boxing but really don't know ish. Why do you think Floyd was constantly criticizing Ortiz who was 165-170 for being so chunky months before their fight? Because he's knows once your body settles in above 160 it gets harder and harder to keep coming way down to 47, and Floyd proved right because it was clear Ortiz didn't have the stamina to keep pace with Floyd for the full 12 hence the last hurrah and a headbutt.Same thing was said about Hatton right before Pacquiao knocked him TFO. Bradley is not 22 24 or 25 years old anymore, he's closer to 30 and getting over the hill its evident in his last couple of fights, being too far over your fighting weight has plenty to do with stamina. Bradley's just trying to appear to be the bigger man right now when the fact of the matter is they will both weigh roughly the same on fight night, and Pacquiao will have waay more stamina. you watch.
      Ortiz is a different story as he's huge for the WW division, Bradley on the other hand is small and again...moving up. Also, there was no evidence of Ortiz not having the condition to go the 12, he was simply out classed and looked for a way out. The bold, I saw Pacquiao tire somewhat, show a bit of fatigue against Mosley, Margarito, Marquez...Bradley on the other hand has never shown stamina issues, so I'm surprised you would even say that. When it comes to conditioning Bradley is up there with the best of them.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by hougigo View Post
        what are you smoking? Not disciplined? The mans commitment to sport and conditioning is amazing. His work ethic is top notch and when it comes fight time he's in the best shape of his life.
        Mark my words, he's going to be looking like a fitness beast June 9th. He goes hard
        A lot of you guys are judging Bradley based on his fight with Peterson that was years ago. That Bradley hasn't showed up for 3 fights now. He looked worse than Manny in his last fight. You can talk fitness all you want but there aren't any fighters out there in better shape than Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather, Bradley's not even on that level. Have you fanboys ever even watched Bradley train? Terrible workrate...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
          A lot of you guys are judging Bradley based on his fight with Peterson that was years ago. That Bradley hasn't showed up for 3 fights now. He looked worse than Manny in his last fight. You can talk fitness all you want but there aren't any fighters out there in better shape than Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather, Bradley's not even on that level. Have you fanboys ever even watched Bradley train? Terrible workrate...
          Wasn't judging his work ethic on his Peterson fight... that's overall how he trains. I was talking about how he trains

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            I didn't mean he literally ran like mosley, but going into a shell and backing into a corner not throwing much and getting booed for the majority of the fight is basically considered running or fighting to survive.

            kinda off subject but by the way I'm big fan of Solomon and really wish they would give him a shot on a more main stream level, he's got real potential to be up there with the limited amount of stars right now, but he's running out of time and not getting any younger..
            He got put into the ropes because of Pacquiao's barrage of punches, not because he backed up. Why would he diminish his offense by backing up, how would that benefit his style?

            In the bold, out of Pacquiao, Martinez, I give Solomon the best chance in beating Floyd. I expect him to bloom, don't know when but it'll happen eventually, I hear he's having promotional issues but I haven't read up on that.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
              A lot of you guys are judging Bradley based on his fight with Peterson that was years ago. That Bradley hasn't showed up for 3 fights now. He looked worse than Manny in his last fight. You can talk fitness all you want but there aren't any fighters out there in better shape than Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather, Bradley's not even on that level. Have you fanboys ever even watched Bradley train? Terrible workrate...
              Name me a fighter who has looked good against Casamayor, please.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View Post
                Ortiz is a different story as he's huge for the WW division, Bradley on the other hand is small and again...moving up. Also, there was no evidence of Ortiz not having the condition to go the 12, he was simply out classed and looked for a way out. The bold, I saw Pacquiao tire somewhat, show a bit of fatigue against Mosley, Margarito, Marquez...Bradley on the other hand has never shown stamina issues, so I'm surprised you would even say that. When it comes to conditioning Bradley is up there with the best of them.
                Your lying to yourself man, I've watched the Floyd-Ortiz fight atleast 25-30 times, and it was clear that ortiz was beginning to tire out, the spitting, blowing air out of his nose, redness of his chest and face, all signs of fatigue, It was clear that Ortiz couldnt keep pace with Floyd for the full 12, rd 4 floyd throws a rare 8 punch combo and Ortiz stumbles and barely throws a punch back, If that ain't fatigue don't know what is... you say Ortiz is huge and Bradley isn't yet Ortiz was weighing 165 and Bradley says his natural weight it 160ish you say you never seen Bradley have stamina issues yet he openly admitted to getting tired late in the Peterson fight and showed fatigue late during the abregu fight at 147... lol
                Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 02-22-2012, 03:42 PM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by hougigo View Post
                  Wasn't judging his work ethic on his Peterson fight... that's overall how he trains. I was talking about how he trains
                  Well I've watched Bradley train, and he's not on the level of either Pacquiao or Mayweather imo who have been known for years to train for 3 hrs straight with hardly any breaks. Anyone who thinks Bradley trains harder than those two is delusional and really not worth arguing with over it to be honest..

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                  • #49
                    In that case, I suggest that Tim get's his affairs in order.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View Post
                      Name me a fighter who has looked good against Casamayor, please.
                      Marquez, duh

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