Why are people so critical of Haye's performance against Wlad?

[Daddy T]

I knew Haye ****** and his style ****** well before the fight.

As I pointed out multiple times, Haye's fights against Harrison and Valuev were worse than any Klitschko fight I've ever witnessed including the Ibragimov debacle.

Essentially Haye did the exact same thing Ibragimov did. I wonder if you were maybe a little more critical of Sultan for what he did than you are willing to be of Haye?

Read the article from Terrance Dooley yesterday. A British sportswriter who asks how Haye went from an action fighter who displayed class inside and outside of the ring to a one punch a minute unbearable c*nt not even 2 years later.

You keep telling people "obviously you havent watched Haye's fights" well maybe you haven't watched them either because a few years ago Haye wasn't a single shot counterpuncher who ran his mouth more than he fought. In fact before the Maccarinelli fight I actually had a level of appreciation for him as a fighter.

this is true, at cruiser he was quite entertaining and aggressive, but once he moved to heavy he became very defensive and a 100% counterpuncher

[sunny31]

he lacked heart, simple as that.

After years of talking **** he fought like a hoe. He flopped around all over the place and only tried that same freaking move over and over and over again which wasn't working. People don't respect a poor effort, especially after all the talk and hype.

Eddie Chambers & Sam Peter gave more of an effort than Haye did.

There was a reason he went to the floor, so not to take wlad's weight when he holds and leans on, it was a tactic, so he didnt wear down like a lot of Wlad opponents and get a point taken off, which he succeeded. I am not saying it was necessarily the right thing to do, but it wasn't because he lacked heart or is a hoe.

The problems he had in the ring were not about heart, they were about skill and technique, and you are right he didnt have enough ideas, he stung Wlad in the last round but it was too late. But I disagree that he doesnt have heart, he has got up off the canvas to win before and has shown heart in plenty of fights.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Same old boring crap, you guys are entitled to your opinion. But clearly you have no idea how Haye fights so my original point stands. You should have known what to expect, haye has rarely thrown 40 punches a round that is not his style, also you should give wlad credit for nullifying him.

Followed Gaye's career since his first fight. I know exactly how he fights. And I knew he would fight in that fashion. But I didnt expect it to be such a pusssified pathetic lame effort. He looked like he had zero gameplan. Except run away and attempt to throw one huge overhand right occasionally. He wanted to make as much money for as little effort as possible and congratulations to the ****, he did it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

There was a reason he went to the floor, so not to take wlad's weight when he holds and leans on, it was a tactic, so he didnt wear down like a lot of Wlad opponents and get a point taken off, which he succeeded. I am not saying it was necessarily the right thing to do, but it wasn't because he lacked heart or is a hoe.

The problems he had in the ring were not about heart, they were about skill and technique, and you are right he didnt have enough ideas, he stung Wlad in the last round but it was too late. But I disagree that he doesnt have heart, he has got up off the canvas to win before and has shown heart in plenty of fights.

The diving thing was the only good thing he did.

[Hitman932]

The diving thing was the only good thing he did.

Yup. Because it set up Merchant perfectly for his "flop house" one liner.

[nomadman]

That is fair enough, he did try and put it on Wlad in the last round, but I agree he should have gone for it after round 9-10. But some people act like he could turn himself into Mike Tyson, he is a defensive fighter, always has been.

Then he shouldn't have talked himself up as the second coming. Pretty obvious why people are 'critical' of his performance. He led them on and didn't deliver.

[sunny31]

Followed Gaye's career since his first fight. I know exactly how he fights. And I knew he would fight in that fashion. But I didnt expect it to be such a pusssified pathetic lame effort. He looked like he had zero gameplan. Except run away and attempt to throw one huge overhand right occasionally. He wanted to make as much money for as little effort as possible and congratulations to the ****, he did it.

It is more difficult then you think, you are not giving Wlad enough credit and you should watch the fight again, there was quite a few times where Haye would step in, but wlad has great eyes and quick feet, so he would take that little step back, and Haye is not the type of fighter to put his chin on the line to land his own shot, so what's the result of that? Non action. Wlad controlled the distance like he always does, Haye was constantly off balance when he would throw, which made him uncomfortable with letting his hands go, wlad is great at it, it was an expert performance.

[IMDAZED]

Haye was too tentative but I thought it was a very, very solid fight plan and performance. Wladimir was simply too good.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Haye was too tentative but I thought it was a very, very solid fight plan and performance. Wladimir was simply too good.

Very very solid fight plan

[sunny31]

Then he shouldn't have talked himself up as the second coming. Pretty obvious why people are 'critical' of his performance. He led them on and didn't deliver.

Yes but tried to deliver, I am assuming that most of the people that post here have more than just a passing interest in the sport, if you know your stuff you should have known what to expect, how many other fighters sell fights and don't perform? Why is Haye subject to special treatment?