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  • D4thincarnation
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    #171
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Obviously, as a promoter floyd brings in other revenue that he wouldn't as justa fighter as manny is. So obviously floyd as a promoter is going to pay himself more than bob would so your argument it would be his highest payday is not true.

    Manny as just a fighter is going to have to pay Bob no matter what so he is a victim of his deal.

    As I said before just run all the economic numbers and split it like that. Thats the fairest way.
    GBP promotes Floyd, not Floyd, either way, Floyd gets his biggest purse from fighting Pacquiao and he turned it down.

    Manny even offered him the extra 10% for the winner and Floyd response was that he wanted the bigger share no matter what.

    Guess Floyd isn't that confident that he is going to win.

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #172
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      True. But clearly its not a performance enhancer so its a moot point.

      Interesting how David Haye is ridiculed for his wanting 50% but Manny isn't.
      David Haye does not want 50% and Pacquiao generates more money than Floyd.

      If I took some Xylocaine, I could punch through my front door, without out I don't think I could.

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      • newcastleking
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        #173
        floyd could win pac hes just scared ****less to take that risk

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #174
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          GBP promotes Floyd, not Floyd, either way, Floyd gets his biggest purse from fighting Pacquiao and he turned it down.

          Manny even offered him the extra 10% for the winner and Floyd response was that he wanted the bigger share no matter what.

          Guess Floyd isn't that confident that he is going to win.
          There is a New York Times article about floyds business arrangement which clearly shows GBP is not floyd promoter. But I dont think the truth is what you care about.

          If I were floyd and all the economic indicators show I make more, which they do, I would take the bigger share. You know if Manny actually generated more Bob nor Manny would ask for a 50/50 split.

          Obviously its about return on your investment. Floyd invests more so he expects to get more out. SImple business, has nothing to do with confidence about winning.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #175
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            David Haye does not want 50% and Pacquiao generates more money than Floyd.

            If I took some Xylocaine, I could punch through my front door, without out I don't think I could.
            No you couldn't because xylocaine doesnt increase your strength. You juust wouldn't feel your hand breaking WHEN YOU HIT THE DOOR.

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #176
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              No you couldn't because xylocaine doesnt increase your strength. You juust wouldn't feel your hand breaking WHEN YOU HIT THE DOOR.
              I can punch through the door it will just hurt like hell and I probably do some serious damage to my hand

              Same type of effect as Angel Dust, without the psychosis. People that take that stuff and break out of handcuff, take on 20 police officers, not because they have become super strong but because they don't feel pain.

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              • 4Corners
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                #177
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                I can punch through the door it will just hurt like hell and I probably do some serious damage to my hand

                Same type of effect as Angel Dust, without the psychosis. People that take that stuff and break out of handcuff, take on 20 police officers, not because they have become super strong but because they don't feel pain.
                Why did Manny say he'd take less money than Floyd to make it happen??? Why did Koncz and Floyd BOTH say they never even discussed the money Manny would get on the backend, when Floyd offered him a 40 million guarantee??? Also, on a per fight PPV stand point, Floyd sells more than Manny.

                Also, it's very hard to take ANYTHING you say seriously when you say jabs don't really count, Floyd shouldn't be in the HOF or an ATG.....

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                • odogg8121
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                  #178
                  Laughing at how silly people on this site are; man the things you guys believe... well I would like to sell you guy a bridge I own in Brooklyn really cheap PM me for the paper work lol

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                  • Calabis
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    There is a New York Times article about floyds business arrangement which clearly shows GBP is not floyd promoter. But I dont think the truth is what you care about.

                    If I were floyd and all the economic indicators show I make more, which they do, I would take the bigger share. You know if Manny actually generated more Bob nor Manny would ask for a 50/50 split.

                    Obviously its about return on your investment. Floyd invests more so he expects to get more out. SImple business, has nothing to do with confidence about winning.
                    Its pointless...Manny doesn't know **** about the business side of boxing, here look at this quote:

                    To all of my fans," Pacquiao announced, "Mayweather just needs to agree to and accept a 50-percent split, and if he does then the fight will go through. He's the one who needs to agree.

                    "He's the one who has to say yes. The reason is because he talks to a lot of people. He has a lot of representatives. If he takes the fight, he can make $50-$60 million. That's how much he can make."(Sorry Manny but you have no right to this money, its partnerships Floyd has developed long before you)


                    "I don't have problems getting a guarantee because I have a promoter who will give me my guaranteed purse. If he gets a guarantee, then we are going to share the revenue on a 50-50 basis."


                    When will he understand that those reps are the same type Bob Arum brings in to help promote and invest in Top Rank events....u know Manny the money Bob receives through the back end and probably doesn't give you a dime, because you are excited about u'r 8 mil guarantee and PPV sales. Its funny how Manny and Bob keep saying GBP won't give Mayweather a guarantee purse, yet he had a $25mil vs Ortiz.......wake up Manny, you don't know **** about the business side, you are told what to say and being taken to the cleaners. DLH and Mayweather woke up real quick, which is why the have made a killing moneywise on their own.
                    Last edited by Calabis; 02-21-2012, 10:48 AM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Calabis
                      Its pointless...Manny doesn't know **** about the business side of boxing, here look at this quote:

                      To all of my fans," Pacquiao announced, "Mayweather just needs to agree to and accept a 50-percent split, and if he does then the fight will go through. He's the one who needs to agree.

                      "He's the one who has to say yes. The reason is because he talks to a lot of people. He has a lot of representatives. If he takes the fight, he can make $50-$60 million. That's how much he can make."(Sorry Manny but you have no right to this money, its partnerships Floyd has developed long before you)


                      "I don't have problems getting a guarantee because I have a promoter who will give me my guaranteed purse. If he gets a guarantee, then we are going to share the revenue on a 50-50 basis."


                      When will he understand that those reps are the same type Bob Arum brings in to help promote and invest in Top Rank events....u know Manny the money Bob receives through the back end and probably doesn't give you a dime, because you are excited about u'r 8 mil guarantee and PPV sales. Its funny how Manny and Bob keep saying GBP won't give Mayweather a guarantee purse, yet he had a $25mil vs Ortiz.......wake up Manny, you don't know **** about the business side, you are told what to say and being taken to the cleaners. DLH and Mayweather woke up real quick, which is why the have made a killing moneywise on their own.
                      I find it odd that if Manny and Bob would only ask for 50% if Manny outsold Floyd. History shows us that niether of these men has ever been that willing to give the other side ANYTHING yet they both want to do this for floyd of all people.

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