Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: Mayweather Doesn't Want The Fight, I Want It

[Calabis]

Just read the New York Times article on it. Its a good read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...weather&st=cse

Damn nice find, was about to go thread surfing lol

[Paposkiviri]

Will this ever end...

Hopefully Bradley and Cotto can both decisively beat Pacquiao and Mayweather (respectively) so that we can have a, IMO badly needed, paradigm shift.

This. Here's to hoping.

[GRUSTLER]

Ok tell me about his bussiness model and why it is relevant, the expenditure, the net income for the Maweather vs Ortiz fight.

I assume you know this because you are acting like you know this in great detail.

So lets hear it.

Manny does not make more money than Floyd in the sport of boxing and that has pretty much been proven so why try to flip it and bounce it? I think Pac should have gotten 50/50 off of his name value alone but to say he is making Mayweather money and that is why he should get 50% is not correct because he isn't making Mayweather money. I can care less about what they make because I'm not getting anything from it and just wanted to see them fight and settle the score but it is what it is and if Floyd feels he should get more, then he has a right and same as Pac because it's business. When Oscar got more money than Floyd and Pac at that point he was indeed the bigger name but Floyd/Pac are on even terms popularity wise with Manny being a more fan friendly but Floyd trumps him in PPV sales. Manny's popularity and Floyd's PPV generating makes the fight 50/50.

[poeticlsykuac]

I just want to say, that asking for a guaranteed 50 million is ridiculous for one fight. It is over the top, 40 million is an outstanding price to step in the ring to fight someone you think you can beat the hell out of. Do you realize how much money 1 million dollars is in the Philippines? You could support 5 families for yours and their lifetime. WHY DOES HE NEED 50 MILLION DOLLARS TO FIGHT PBF?

Does Pacman deserve as much as PBF? Perhaps but Pacman is by far the more ridiculous one, he refused to drug test for how long? He refuses 40 million dollars.

This reminds me of a psychological experiment. There were people who were asked to be a leader of a group project. They were given two options for compensation they would all make 20 dollars while you make 40 dollars or they could make 60 dollars while everyone else made 80 dollars. More people chose the 40 dollars because it was in relation to social status. Pacman did the same thing.

I think that both sides are @55holes. They both claim to love the sport but both refuse to give the sport what it needs to be thrown back on the map.

What's funny about all of this is I don't think either fighter is actually scared of the other. I think neither one wants to take a back seat in the financial gain possible, they both want the social status of the bigger purse. They both feel they deserve it.

They are both ridiculous. Both have lied and acted ridiculous in the boxing world. I wish both would refuse the big money and poor that money back into adding boxing gyms in communities. Give back to people and make boxing big again. They should both ask for 20 million and leave the rest to the sport. What on earth are you going to do with 50 million dollars in a place like the Philippines? Sheez you nearly could buy the damn country.

[D4thincarnation]

Just read the New York Times article on it. Its a good read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...weather&st=cse

What does that have to do with the money generated. All it says is Floyd prefers to get a cut rather than a flat fee.

Floyd also spouted that he would get $40m guarantee for the Ortiz fight, the article says that isn't true, as Floyd gets very low gaurantees under that model.

115m, for Oscar, Hatton, Marquez and Mosley, $ 28m a fight, And Pacquiao was offering a $50m guarantee.

Hatton also got 100% of British PPV money, another thing the article got wrong.

You do know the difference between the money Floyd earns and the money he can generate, don't you?

[madsweeney]

I just want to say, that asking for a guaranteed 50 million is ridiculous for one fight. It is over the top, 40 million is an outstanding price to step in the ring to fight someone you think you can beat the hell out of. Do you realize how much money 1 million dollars is in the Philippines? You could support 5 families for yours and their lifetime. WHY DOES HE NEED 50 MILLION DOLLARS TO FIGHT PBF?

Does Pacman deserve as much as PBF? Perhaps but Pacman is by far the more ridiculous one, he refused to drug test for how long? He refuses 40 million dollars.

This reminds me of a psychological experiment. There were people who were asked to be a leader of a group project. They were given two options for compensation they would all make 20 dollars while you make 40 dollars or they could make 60 dollars while everyone else made 80 dollars. More people chose the 40 dollars because it was in relation to social status. Pacman did the same thing.

I think that both sides are @55holes. They both claim to love the sport but both refuse to give the sport what it needs to be thrown back on the map.

What's funny about all of this is I don't think either fighter is actually scared of the other. I think neither one wants to take a back seat in the financial gain possible, they both want the social status of the bigger purse. They both feel they deserve it.

They are both ridiculous. Both have lied and acted ridiculous in the boxing world. I wish both would refuse the big money and poor that money back into adding boxing gyms in communities. Give back to people and make boxing big again. They should both ask for 20 million and leave the rest to the sport. What on earth are you going to do with 50 million dollars in a place like the Philippines? Sheez you nearly could buy the damn country.

Guarantee aside, why does Floyd think he deserves 100% of PPV royalties? That's probably a bigger issue than the guarantee.

[D4thincarnation]

Guarantee aside, why does Floyd think he deserves 100% of PPV royalties? That's probably a bigger issue than the guarantee.

He doesn't but saying this stops the fight from happening and thus gets Floyd what he wants.

[The Big Dunn]

What does that have to do with the money generated. All it says is Floyd prefers to get a cut rather than a flat fee.

Floyd also spouted that he would get $40m guarantee for the Ortiz fight, the article says that isn't true, as Floyd gets very low gaurantees under that model.

115m, for Oscar, Hatton, Marquez and Mosley, $ 28m a fight, And Pacquiao was offering a $50m guarantee.

Hatton also got 100% of British PPV money, another thing the article got wrong.

You do know the difference between the money Floyd earns and the money he can generate, don't you?

Now you see why floyd would earn more than manny should they fight because floyd is essentially paying himslef while manny has to get paid from Top Rank. The money floyd earns comes from sales of evrything, concessions, tshirts etc etc. Manny's doesn't far as I know.

[Khalid X]

I agree with you Pacquiao.

I can't understand for the life of me as to why Floyd is scared ****less of this midget that isn't even a WW.

I think Floyd should be held outta the HOF if he ends his career without facing Manny.

[D4thincarnation]

Now you see why floyd would earn more than manny should they fight because floyd is essentially paying himslef while manny has to get paid from Top Rank. The money floyd earns comes from sales of evrything, concessions, tshirts etc etc. Manny's doesn't far as I know.

Money generated is what matters, and over the last 3 years, Manny has proved he generates more money than Floyd.