Comments Thread For: EpixStats: Vitali's Stats Go Down, Chisora Lands at 45%

[grape drink]

true... but have you really retired someone & proud of it when judges scorecards deemed you were losing about 75% of the rds you fought. In Helenious case.. you can say he retired him because he was the one who really won 80% of the rds & got robbed... no such thievery vs Vitali. You have to at least win... son.... come on now!

the thing is nobody thinks chisora retired helenius either, and rightly so because he simply didn't. helenius hasn't announced his retirement so he isn't retired.

[grape drink]

I didn't make it out to be anything it wasn't .. i stated 4 in a row & 5 of the last 13... you're drawing your own conclusions.

You are drawing your own conclusions by saying fighters are retired even though they haven't even said they are retired themselves.

[IronDanHamza]

true... but have you really retired someone & proud of it when judges scorecards deemed you were losing about 75% of the rds you fought. In Helenious case.. you can say he retired him because he was the one who really won 80% of the rds & got robbed... no such thievery vs Vitali. You have to at least win on judges scorecards.. outbox & outslug the opponent so he can question whether he wants to do it again any time soon.... son.... come on now!

There you have it.

Chisora has retired Vitali and Helenius.

Go on Boxrec and he is the last person they have fought. So he's retired them.

[Joeyzagz]

Vitali was jabbing half has much as he usually did... his left hand was rendered useless for the majority of the fight & he still won comfortably. Vitali didn't get outlanded in any of the 12 rds. It was a very good performance & showed the difference in class between the other giants Chisora has faced. Let's stop making it out to be a bad Vitali Klitschko performance when he actually schooled Chisora in the same manner Wlad schooled Haye... only difference is Vitali had a pushy bobber & weaver coming at him & getting peppered with shots for his trouble.




Vitali now neeeds 3 ko's in a row to tie & 4 to break Marciano's record ko% as he's allowed 3 of the last 5 fighters to hear the final bell.

Keep dreaming jjimmy, hes not touching Marcianos record ever again. That ship has sailed. Foremans 63-2(60 Kos) record at age 41 is also unreachable.

3 of his last 6 fights have gone 12 rounds. Thats 50% against inexperienced novices, a lightheavyweight, an overweight asthmatic and Albert Sosnoski. Vit will be forced to rely on resume' to achieve greatness, now that his inflated numbers are crashing down.

[Superflo777]

Keep dreaming jjimmy, hes not touching Marcianos record ever again. That ship has sailed. Foremans 63-2(60 Kos) record at age 41 is also unreachable.

Nice try there, just take out any desired point out of someone's career and say that's an unbeatable record. How about Vitali's 27-0 record as a world champion with 27 KOs? Anyway, it doesn't really matter if Vitali will hold the highest KO percentage record or not, as of now he's still in the Top 2 and will be a HOF inductee anyway, like it or not.

[Joeyzagz]

Nice try there, just take out any desired point out of someone's career and say that's an unbeatable record.

^^^Oh the irony.


Foremans 63-2(60kos) is a stat I used to mock the folks who ejaculated over 43-2(40kos). Both are merely points in time before age began to grab hold of their records,

Hopefully Vitali is not ****** enough to fight until hes 48. Without his inflated numbers hes just the guy who quit against Byrd and got his face pummeled by Lennox.

[Superflo777]

Foremans 63-2(60kos) is a stat I used to mock the folks who ejaculated over 43-2(40kos). Both are merely points in time before age began to grab hold of their records,

These posters were using that record when it was still accurate, Vitali is nearing retirement now, so there's not gonna change much about it. If he knocks out his last 2 opponents without a shoulder injury it's gonna go back up again, but it doesn't matter much because he's an ATG and HOFer now no matter what.

[jimmy1569]

There you have it.

Chisora has retired Vitali and Helenius.

Go on Boxrec and he is the last person they have fought. So he's retired them.

The record is 4 in a row.. last 4 fighters to face Vitali have not proven beyond a shadow of doubt that they are ready.. willing & able to fight anyone else.. let alone rematch Vitali just like the other 42 opponents who didn't come back for seconds.

[jimmy1569]

Nice try there, just take out any desired point out of someone's career and say that's an unbeatable record. How about Vitali's 27-0 record as a world champion with 27 KOs? Anyway, it doesn't really matter if Vitali will hold the highest KO percentage record or not, as of now he's still in the Top 2 and will be a HOF inductee anyway, like it or not.

You're learning on the job.. son.. Keep up the good work.... You take the entire career total or it doesn't count & let's keep it real... the 6 times Vitali has failed to ko someone.. he didn't even lose 6 rds out of the 63 rds of his opponents survival. BIG gEORGE & rOCKY Marciano lost more than 6 rds in a single bout when they didn't get ko's. Vitali also has won about 95% of all the rds he's ever fought.. included is the 92% scorecard ratio when his power failed to stop the opposition. rocky ko'ed mostly cruiserweights.. Vitali has stopped heavyweights & has the highest ko ratio of the past half century.. Rocky also failed to stop 6 fighters.. he just has had 3 more career fights & I don't care what anyone says.. Briggs was a KO that was stolen from Vitali..


I don't see any stolen Ko's on Rock's resume.. so as far as i'm concerned Vitali STILL owns the highest ko ratio in heavyweight history.. (this is the breakdown of all 6 non stoppages) pay attention.... he's had two incomplete fights where injuries cost him ko's.. vs Byrd & Lewis. then he's had 2 fights that went the distance because of shoulder tear & rehabbing his shoulder after surgery (Chisora.. Hoffman) & then he had two fighters who completely refused to exchange in Briggs & Johnson.. therefore limiting any counter opportunities & clearer shots at there jaws... all 6 opponents escaped BEING KTFO because Vitali wasn't at full capacity healthwise or they were in there just to survive while losing all 12 rds.

[The Hammer]

There you have it.

Chisora has retired Vitali and Helenius.

Go on Boxrec and he is the last person they have fought. So he's retired them.

Neither is retired.

Helenius will be on a Sauerland card in September.

Vitali had planned to fight again in June/July, but because of the shoulder injury is now planning to fight next in September.