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  • I don't even give a **** what these ****** fans say. I have my own brain and I don't need their crappy opinions filled with biased agendas. These ****** fans are simply there to discredit no matter what. It just so happened that the result was not the one they're looking for.

    Boxing is not plastic surgery. You watch, weigh and assess the boxers' condition in the ring. YOu gotta be so ****** to discount the training these boxers put in before the fight and you can't tell between a fighter that is not physically fit and one just cowering in fear. Casamayor was a spent force when Bradley beat him, for example. The same thing can be said of Baldomir when he was ko'd by Alvarez. (And why are these ****** fans letting these fights happen? Where is the outrage?)

    ****** fans are there to discredit anything. Pacquiao is damned either way, win or lose, for these ****** fans. If Margs beat Pac they would be all out to give props to AM. Pac was nearly stopped in the fifth and sixth round. I can't imagine Marquez, Bradley, Ortiz or any small fighter survive that onslaught by the rampaging Marg. Naa.

    Who would have thought Clottey would just defend like a fence of bricks in his fight with Pac? Who would have thought Mosley would just focused on defending himself and not throw that so-called powerful right? Who would have thought Marquez would just counter and fight backwards all night and just let Pac do the entertaining?

    So naa. I don't take these ****** fans' opinions seriously. They're only there when the fights are over, then they start shoving their fraud history up people's throats to suit their agendas.

    Clottey, Margarito, Mosley >>>>>> Bradley. Not even close.

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    • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
      I don't even give a **** what these ****** fans say. I have my own brain and I don't need their crappy opinions filled with biased agendas. These ****** fans are simply there to discredit no matter what. It just so happened that the result was not the one they're looking for.

      Boxing is not plastic surgery. You watch, weigh and assess the boxers' condition in the ring. YOu gotta be so ****** to discount the training these boxers put in before the fight and you can't tell between a fighter that is not physically fit and one just cowering in fear. Casamayor was a spent force when Bradley beat him, for example. The same thing can be said of Baldomir when he was ko'd by Alvarez. (And why are these ****** fans letting these fights happen? Where is the outrage?)

      ****** fans are there to discredit anything. Pacquiao is damned either way, win or lose, for these ****** fans. If Margs beat Pac they would be all out to give props to AM. Pac was nearly stopped in the fifth and sixth round. I can't imagine Marquez, Bradley, Ortiz or any small fighter survive that onslaught by the rampaging Marg. Naa.

      Who would have thought Clottey would just defend like a fence of bricks in his fight with Pac? Who would have thought Mosley would just focused on defending himself and not throw that so-called powerful right? Who would have thought Marquez would just counter and fight backwards all night and just let Pac do the entertaining?

      So naa. I don't take these ****** fans' opinions seriously. They're only there when the fights are over, then they start shoving their fraud history up people's throats to suit their agendas.

      Clottey, Margarito, Mosley >>>>>> Bradley. Not even close.

      Margarito did buckled Pacquiao with the left hook behind the back.

      Marquez, Bradley >>>>>>> Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. Not the size that can beat Pacquiao is style.

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      • Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        No bro man your logic is flawed cause of HATE. I'm a Boxing fan.
        You claiming to be a boxing fan is a non sequitur.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        But your selling me BS right now. Real boxing fans shouldn't have difficulties understanding that Bradley is the next best thing for Pacquiao other than Mayweather.
        I'm not selling anything nor do I feel the need to persuade you to see the truth. I highlight the path but you can only walk it by being honest with yourself.

        "Real boxing fans shouldn't"?

        You've got to show that you know something beyond Pacquiao or Mayweather before you start calling yourself real, my man.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        I cannot find any cons Pacquiao fighting Bradley.
        Well don't judge everyone else by your own ****ty standards! Just because YOU cannot find a con with a Bradley fight doesn't mean that others haven't expressed valid reasons as to why a Bradley fight is yet another attempt by Pacquiao and the Bobfather to avoid getting Manny's reputation anymore diminished by another loss.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Fighting Bradley is gonna fill holes that people bash Pacquiao for ducking Raheem and Guzman or ducking Black fighters. Where's Raheem and Guzman now??
        It absolutely won't fill those holes. And BTW, when you admit that you're attempting to fill holes, you're admitting that you absolutely did avoid accomplishing something that you now have to fix.

        Also, where Raheem and Guzman are now has no bearing on whether they would have beaten Pacquiao back then or not.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Let me explain if Pacquiao choose other fighters.
        Proceed.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Cotto= Is out of his prime, washed up, etc. I don't care if Cotto vs Pacquiao is at 154, 160 or 175. I'm not paying for it.
        Ohhhh .. so Cotto is washed up despite him being Pacquiao's first choice??? You do know that Pacquaio tried to make that fight by dehydrating Cotto down to WW, right? And what does what you're willing to pay for have to do with the validity of a fight? LOL .. do you think there is a poll or a voting system? This isn't American Idol, my man.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Ortiz= Why would Pacquiao fight him? So, people can say here we go again Pacquiao is fight Mayweather's left over?
        It didn't stop Pacquiao before and it sure was said by REAL boxing fans for years! A fight against Ortiz at the SAME EXACT WEIGHT that Floyd fought him at would be LEAPS AND BOUNDS above a Bradley fight.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Berto= For what? Mayweather's left over Ortiz kick Berto's @ss, Pacquiao is cherry picking.
        The Ortiz/Berto fight was a candidate for FOTY. What are you talking about? Berto is the IBF champion at WW. How is Bradley more dangerous and a better challenge. He isn't, plain and simple.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Marquez= Here we go again.
        JMM beat Pacquiao. REAL boxing fans know that. All one had to do was watch the fight. Forget my opinion. Go watch the fight. The ONLY reason people don't want to see Pac/JMM IV is because they believe JMM will get robbed again.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Broner= Is a 130 pounder.
        He could meet Manny at 140lbs. Its just as bad as Bradley being a 140 pounder and JMM being a 135 pounder. Are you trying to have it both ways?

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Gamboa= Is a 126 pounder.
        A bit extreme, but I wouldn't put it passed the Bobfather.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        Bradley= undefeated, young black fighter who supposedly Pacquiao ducks. Also, their the same freaking size. F the BS Bradley is a JWW.
        So is Broner. Not that I think that Broner would even be a viable fight. There was a point being made that went over your head. To go down in weight to jrWW, he might as well be fighting Broner coming up. His last fight was against a 135 pounder. So a fight against a 130 pounder would be ridiculous, but not out of the question for Manny Pacquiao.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        To answer your question Peterson and Alexander are solid fighters that Bradley beat and to really answer your question Mayweather beats Pacquiao and he is and was the #1 P4P fighter in the world. In my opinion.
        I'm not looking for anyone to hail Mayweather as #1. We agree on that, but that was not the issue and beside the point. Peterson might be solid, but Alexander's one and only accomplishment was KO'ing Juan Urango. He did it in such beautiful fashion that the ENTIRE boxing world jumped the gun and called him the next big thing. Devon couldn't live up to the hype, but rode the wave until it fizzled out.

        My point is that Bradley isn't much better than Broner on paper accomplishment wise aside from title defenses. I write this to express that Bradley is a solid boxer with all the right credentials for being at the top of his division. He still is not a credible challenge for Pacquaio. Mosley was once a LW. Does that mean that it would be ok for him to now fight Broner? You get the point.

        Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
        But I will support and back up my argument that Bradley is the next best thing if Pacquiao is not fighting Mayweather
        I give you credit for sticking to your guns, but still we will agree to disagree. Its the same nonsense they pulled with Khan. Had Khan beaten Peterson, certain fanbases would be claiming that he was a P4P fighter despite him beating virtually no one of that would warrant such an accolade.

        Bradley and Khan needed to fight each other. They didn't, and that left a big void in both resumes. There can be only one #1, and its Bradley. Still, he beat no one worth mentioning and he's a small guy who is #1 AT AND ONLY AT 140.

        I respect the fact that you took time out to explain your position .. something most here do not .. and most likely cannot do. That alone puts you levels above the so-called "real fans" on this site.

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        • Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
          Margarito did buckled Pacquiao with the left hook behind the back.

          Marquez, Bradley >>>>>>> Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. Not the size that can beat Pacquiao is style.
          The size difference is way in the advantage of Margs in the Pac fight. The playing field was way unleveled.

          ****** fans say Marg is a come forward fighter and one dimensional. Isn't that what ****** fans say of Pac? He's one-dimensional, come-forward, easy to hit, you name it. That's why ****** fans are sick people. Their logic is all ****ed up.

          Last edited by al-Xander; 02-18-2012, 02:20 PM.

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          • Ortiz is a light middlweight, and Floyd drained him to 147 at a CW.

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            • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
              Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley >>>>>>> Abregu, Alexander, Casamayor, Marquez.

              Not even close.
              Well that kinda depends.

              Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley all coming off of career changing losses don't hold the same value as if they were beaten while they were still on top. It just doesn't work that way.

              If anything, credit for beating those guys while they were still on top goes to:

              1 -Cotto goes to Margarito

              2 - Clottey never beat world champions so it doesn't matter

              3 - Margarito goes to Paul Williams, but when Margo was #1 it goes to Shane Mosley.

              4 - Mosley goes to Mayweather

              Pacquiao fought these men ONLY AFTER they had lost title, rank and repute. If you try to give equal credit for Manny's wins under those conditions then you're a fool.

              That's only if you're suggesting that, of course.

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Ortiz is a light middlweight, and Floyd drained him to 147 at a CW.
                A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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                • Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                  A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
                  were u under the impression that that troll ever had one? with statements like that, im pretty certain he didnt.

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                  • Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                    You claiming to be a boxing fan is a non sequitur.



                    I'm not selling anything nor do I feel the need to persuade you to see the truth. I highlight the path but you can only walk it by being honest with yourself.

                    "Real boxing fans shouldn't"?

                    You've got to show that you know something beyond Pacquiao or Mayweather before you start calling yourself real, my man.



                    Well don't judge everyone else by your own ****ty standards! Just because YOU cannot find a con with a Bradley fight doesn't mean that others haven't expressed valid reasons as to why a Bradley fight is yet another attempt by Pacquiao and the Bobfather to avoid getting Manny's reputation anymore diminished by another loss.



                    It absolutely won't fill those holes. And BTW, when you admit that you're attempting to fill holes, you're admitting that you absolutely did avoid accomplishing something that you now have to fix.

                    Also, where Raheem and Guzman are now has no bearing on whether they would have beaten Pacquiao back then or not.



                    Proceed.



                    Ohhhh .. so Cotto is washed up despite him being Pacquiao's first choice??? You do know that Pacquaio tried to make that fight by dehydrating Cotto down to WW, right? And what does what you're willing to pay for have to do with the validity of a fight? LOL .. do you think there is a poll or a voting system? This isn't American Idol, my man.



                    It didn't stop Pacquiao before and it sure was said by REAL boxing fans for years! A fight against Ortiz at the SAME EXACT WEIGHT that Floyd fought him at would be LEAPS AND BOUNDS above a Bradley fight.



                    The Ortiz/Berto fight was a candidate for FOTY. What are you talking about? Berto is the IBF champion at WW. How is Bradley more dangerous and a better challenge. He isn't, plain and simple.



                    JMM beat Pacquiao. REAL boxing fans know that. All one had to do was watch the fight. Forget my opinion. Go watch the fight. The ONLY reason people don't want to see Pac/JMM IV is because they believe JMM will get robbed again.



                    He could meet Manny at 140lbs. Its just as bad as Bradley being a 140 pounder and JMM being a 135 pounder. Are you trying to have it both ways?



                    A bit extreme, but I wouldn't put it passed the Bobfather.



                    So is Broner. Not that I think that Broner would even be a viable fight. There was a point being made that went over your head. To go down in weight to jrWW, he might as well be fighting Broner coming up. His last fight was against a 135 pounder. So a fight against a 130 pounder would be ridiculous, but not out of the question for Manny Pacquiao.



                    I'm not looking for anyone to hail Mayweather as #1. We agree on that, but that was not the issue and beside the point. Peterson might be solid, but Alexander's one and only accomplishment was KO'ing Juan Urango. He did it in such beautiful fashion that the ENTIRE boxing world jumped the gun and called him the next big thing. Devon couldn't live up to the hype, but rode the wave until it fizzled out.

                    My point is that Bradley isn't much better than Broner on paper accomplishment wise aside from title defenses. I write this to express that Bradley is a solid boxer with all the right credentials for being at the top of his division. He still is not a credible challenge for Pacquaio. Mosley was once a LW. Does that mean that it would be ok for him to now fight Broner? You get the point.



                    I give you credit for sticking to your guns, but still we will agree to disagree. Its the same nonsense they pulled with Khan. Had Khan beaten Peterson, certain fanbases would be claiming that he was a P4P fighter despite him beating virtually no one of that would warrant such an accolade.

                    Bradley and Khan needed to fight each other. They didn't, and that left a big void in both resumes. There can be only one #1, and its Bradley. Still, he beat no one worth mentioning and he's a small guy who is #1 AT AND ONLY AT 140.

                    I respect the fact that you took time out to explain your position .. something most here do not .. and most likely cannot do. That alone puts you levels above the so-called "real fans" on this site.
                    Since when did Pac became the bigger fighter.. I thought his specialty to you is draining opponents.. And lmao on Cotto being dehydrated like as if he fought like one in their fight.. Forgetting the fact that Cotto started strong and took an uppercut from Pac to actually make Cotto back up like a b!tch for the remaining 8 rounds...Which makes me think.. you either didnt watch the fight, or just trying to pick up numerous excuses on why Cotto was beaten black and blue in that fight..


                    Real fan.. my as$.. If you were a real fan then you would have known that fight was a 50/50 odds, which made it so compelling...

                    And lmao on Guzman and Raheem... Like as if they were the fighters to beat compared to MAB/EM/JMM during his days at the featherweights...

                    Bradley is a dangerous opponent based on styles alone.. He earned his shot against Pac even though he dVcked Khan.. He has been in the P4P list and is the best LWW.. And its not as if Pac is significantly bigger than Bradley.. Cotto is a credible opponent too.. But he is already past his prime.. Any boxing fan knows that.. But I will tell you this.. I am not goin' to be a blind fool like you who would deny Floyd's credit if he beats Cotto..
                    The way that you are doing to Pac if he beats Bradley

                    And stop sayin' that Bradley wasnt his first choice.. Well Cotto is the third biggest draw... Well duh, he will always goin to be the first choice...And as if that actually matters now.. The point is Pac is taking a high risk low reward fight.. Which is a complete opposite of Floyd's fight with Cotto...
                    Last edited by mikemurni; 02-18-2012, 02:25 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
                      Who cares! and that's one ugly baby on your avatar.
                      And your mother & daughter are whores.

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