Props to Pacquiao for taking on Bradley.

[nutz_n_ya_face]

nutz.. you owe babybush an apology.. That remark of yours on his baby was freaking low.. I admitted it... So you have to admit it too..

I am sorry for having such an ugly baby. I was an ugly baby and now an ugly dude but you don't see me putting my baby pictures in my avatar.

[Brother Jay]

Since when did Pac became the bigger fighter.. I thought his specialty to you is draining opponents..

He drains them so that they weigh in at an agreed upon weight. Then Pac rehydrates on fight night to come in either the same size or larger.

See:

And lmao on Cotto being dehydrated like as if he fought like one in their fight..

Cotto being stipulated to cut weight and him fighting like he was dehydrated are two different issue. You're just not bright enough to know the difference.

Forgetting the fact that Cotto started strong and took an uppercut from Pac to actually make Cotto back up like a b!tch for the remaining 8 rounds...Which makes me think.. you either didnt watch the fight, or just trying to pick up numerous excuses on why Cotto was beaten black and blue in that fight..

Why would I make an excuse? Cotto got his ass destroyed. Still, that doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao has consistently beaten his opponents on the scales before he beat them in the ring. You keep highlighting moments of the fight instead of acknowledging that Pacquiao stipulates cutting weight when in reality Pacquiao has been competing on fight not as a WW since he was a SFW!



Get with the program, dude!

Real fan.. my as$.. If you were a real fan then you would have known that fight was a 50/50 odds, which made it so compelling...

If you were a real fan you'd know that the odds don't make a fight legitimate. Where do you get this stuff?

And lmao on Guzman and Raheem... Like as if they were the fighters to beat compared to MAB/EM/JMM during his days at the featherweights...

Wow .. I didn't want to call you ******, but you're definitely ******. Raheem completely dominated Erik Morales for 12 rounds. It was a schooling where Morales didn't win even one round. Then instead of fighting Raheem who was then the champion, Pacquiao rematched Morales in a division unfamiliar to Morales instead for a cheap win.

Did you even see that fight, Mr real boxing fan? Apparently not.

Bradley is a dangerous opponent based on styles alone..

More ******ity from a guy rapidly becoming known for it. A "style" is meaningless unless that "style" has noteworthy wins attached to it. Bradley's biggest win comes over Alexander, who is not a big deal. He gained some attention for how he beat Urango, but the man was hype and not the real thing.

Fans like you talking about the value of "style" are the reason why guys who have 2 noteworthy wins out of 50 like Martinez are being ranked P4P#3.

He earned his shot against Pac even though he dVcked Khan..

You contradict yourself in the same sentence, idiot. How does a jrWW earn a shot at a WW by doing anything other than beating the #1 contender at WW??????

You did say "earn", did you not?

He has been in the P4P list and is the best LWW..

We agree that Bradley is the #1 ranked jrWW, but his list of wins comes against a virtually bunch of nobodies. The fact that he did not fight Khan and left it to Peterson diminished his perception as king of 140. I don't blame him for chasing the money though. Smart move on his part. Just a weak move on Manny's part.

And its not as if Pac is significantly bigger than Bradley..

Was that any one's argument ... ever?

Why refute a claim that was never made unless you're attempting to seem smarter than you really are? Bradley has blown up to WW, but has never ever beaten anyone that would be recognized as a force at WW.

Cotto is a credible opponent too.. But he is already past his prime.. Any boxing fan knows that..

31 is passed one's prime? You know .. sometimes it really pays to shut the fcuk up when you don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you've ever heard that, but now you have.

Being passed one's prime has to do with age, not the condition with one rebounds from crushing losses. The fact that I have to explain this to you is shameful being that you're a "real boxing fan".

But I will tell you this.. I am not goin' to be a blind fool like you who would deny Floyd's credit if he beats Cotto..

I am denying Floyd credit? LOL .. are you new to this forum? Or are you just the blind fool in the thread? Seriously, you must have been drinking when you wrote this.

Floyd beating ANY jrMW champion is a great accomplishment. You're just making **** up as you go.

The way that you are doing to Pac if he beats Bradley.

That is a completely different story. Bradley, who has ONLY been successful campaigning at jrWW, is not the threat or the challenge that Cotto is at 154lbs. Hype isn't necessary if what you're doing is real.

And stop sayin' that Bradley wasnt his first choice..

He wasn't. The Cotto fight fell through because Miguel wouldn't be beaten again on the scales. Simple and plain.

Well Cotto is the third biggest draw... Well duh, he will always goin to be the first choice...And as if that actually matters now..

I'm sure that sounded brilliant in your head when you thought it up ...

The point is Pac is taking a high risk low reward fight.. Which is a complete opposite of Floyd's fight with Cotto...

Bradley is a high risk fight for Manny ONLY because JMM showed the world just how vulnerable Pacquiao is skillwise. For you to say that Cotto, who is a 154 champion, is a less risky prospect for Floyd confirms and cements your ******ity.

You may not know it, but you downplay the significant role that weight plays as a means of legitimizing the "drain games" that Pacquiao has consistently played. In that regard alone, you have exposed yourself for having little character and for having even less boxing knowledge.

I've humored your ******ity long enough.

[illwill112]

I stop reading after your 1st sentence. pac didnt want bradley is your opinion and hate toward Pacquaio.

The fact is that Pacquiao is fighting a young and undefeated fighter. I give him mad props for that.

Thank you for that. That guy is one of NSB biggest FLoyd Trolls. YEah i agree wiith you. Im glad he is fighting a young hungry fighter and hope this is a good fight. Dont want to see blow out, just want to see 12 rounds of good boxing.

[illwill112]

He drains them so that they weigh in at an agreed upon weight. Then Pac rehydrates on fight night to come in either the same size or larger.

See:





Cotto being stipulated to cut weight and him fighting like he was dehydrated are two different issue. You're just not bright enough to know the difference.



Why would I make an excuse? Cotto got his ass destroyed. Still, that doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao has consistently beaten his opponents on the scales before he beat them in the ring. You keep highlighting moments of the fight instead of acknowledging that Pacquiao stipulates cutting weight when in reality Pacquiao has been competing on fight not as a WW since he was a SFW!



Get with the program, dude!



If you were a real fan you'd know that the odds don't make a fight legitimate. Where do you get this stuff?



Wow .. I didn't want to call you ******, but you're definitely ******. Raheem completely dominated Erik Morales for 12 rounds. It was a schooling where Morales didn't win even one round. Then instead of fighting Raheem who was then the champion, Pacquiao rematched Morales in a division unfamiliar to Morales instead for a cheap win.

Did you even see that fight, Mr real boxing fan? Apparently not.



More ******ity from a guy rapidly becoming known for it. A "style" is meaningless unless that "style" has noteworthy wins attached to it. Bradley's biggest win comes over Alexander, who is not a big deal. He gained some attention for how he beat Urango, but the man was hype and not the real thing.

Fans like you talking about the value of "style" are the reason why guys who have 2 noteworthy wins out of 50 like Martinez are being ranked P4P#3.



You contradict yourself in the same sentence, idiot. How does a jrWW earn a shot at a WW by doing anything other than beating the #1 contender at WW??????

You did say "earn", did you not?



We agree that Bradley is the #1 ranked jrWW, but his list of wins comes against a virtually bunch of nobodies. The fact that he did not fight Khan and left it to Peterson diminished his perception as king of 140. I don't blame him for chasing the money though. Smart move on his part. Just a weak move on Manny's part.



Was that any one's argument ... ever?

Why refute a claim that was never made unless you're attempting to seem smarter than you really are? Bradley has blown up to WW, but has never ever beaten anyone that would be recognized as a force at WW.



31 is passed one's prime? You know .. sometimes it really pays to shut the fcuk up when you don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you've ever heard that, but now you have.

Being passed one's prime has to do with age, not the condition with one rebounds from crushing losses. The fact that I have to explain this to you is shameful being that you're a "real boxing fan".



I am denying Floyd credit? LOL .. are you new to this forum? Or are you just the blind fool in the thread? Seriously, you must have been drinking when you wrote this.

Floyd beating ANY jrMW champion is a great accomplishment. You're just making **** up as you go.



That is a completely different story. Bradley, who has ONLY been successful campaigning at jrWW, is not the threat or the challenge that Cotto is at 154lbs. Hype isn't necessary if what you're doing is real.



He wasn't. The Cotto fight fell through because Miguel wouldn't be beaten again on the scales. Simple and plain.



I'm sure that sounded brilliant in your head when you thought it up ...



Bradley is a high risk fight for Manny ONLY because JMM showed the world just how vulnerable Pacquiao is skillwise. For you to say that Cotto, who is a 154 champion, is a less risky prospect for Floyd confirms and cements your ******ity.

You may not know it, but you downplay the significant role that weight plays as a means of legitimizing the "drain games" that Pacquiao has consistently played. In that regard alone, you have exposed yourself for having little character and for having even less boxing knowledge.

I've humored your ******ity long enough.

Dude there was post a couple days ago with all you people crying about weight draining being owend, so stop it already. That excuse doesn't work for cotto. You *****s and your double standards.

[Reloaded]

Ortiz would probably monster Bradley? Ortiz couldnt even monster Maidana who is not even in the top 3 at JWW. Whats Ortiz gonna do when Bradley starts connecting them over right hands and headbutts from Bradley. Ortiz couldnt even block or see Maidana hand speed, bradley would kill that overrated Chicano.

When did Roach says that Ortiz is a beast at 147..lol... You already failed there... And lol on quoting Roach when most of your post are directed at bashing his statements... So its a fact now if it coincided with your ****** nuthuggin on Floyd nuts.. lol..

You pair of clowns dont know what your talking about and you failed , you just have NO understanding about weight , your typical fanboys .

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=508386

[Brother Jay]

Dude there was post a couple days ago with all you people crying about weight draining being owend, so stop it already. That excuse doesn't work for cotto. You *****s and your double standards.

You're not even trying. You're a troll and proud.

Be gone.

[Brother Jay]

come on hater. admit it alexander putting an @ss kickin' on Urango was impressive at the moment it happen tho.

Tremendously impressive!

So much so, that P4P#1 Mayweather claimed that Alexander might be his heir apparent.

As I said before, an impressive, dynamite win is both a curse and a blessing.

On the one hand, Devon got wide recognition for that spectacular KO. People began predicting big things for the guy thinking that he'd have many more moments like that.

Problem is, Devon look less than spectacular against both Kotelnyk and Matthysse. It wasn't just about a win against Urango and a loss against Bradley. There's other evidence that shows the guy had one shining moment in his career and couldn't keep the momentum going.

That's the curse part. Not living up to the hype raises questions as to how good a fighter ever really was. It calls for reconsiderations that no boxer wants as it pertains to his public perception as a great fighter.

So yes, it was great, but it set the bar too high for someone of Alexander's level of skill and ability.

[Brother Jay]

Except that Bradley defeated 4 top 10 contenders in a strong weightclass. Meanwhile Broner fights in a sorry div, and his best win there is Jason Litzau.

Bradley has been a pro boxer twice as long as Broner to be able to accomplish that.

Broner, meanwhile, is an up and comer who IMO will be able to give Bradley fits if he keeps on working hard and stays focused on the prize.

[Brother Jay]

Also, I'd pay Pacquiao fight Mayweather, Bradley, Broner, Marquez, Gamboa in that order.

I will never pay Pacquiao fight Cotto, Ortiz, Berto, I'm not sold in them because it wont be competitive. Them dudes doesn't have the skills that trouble Pacquiao. Skills pays the bills not size.

To me Mayweather, Bradley, Broner, Marquez and Gamboa would give Pacquiao trouble compare to Cotto, Ortiz or Berto at any weight class.

Size don't mean **** to Pacquiao, He is proven that he can take big punch.

Again, who YOU'RE willing to pay to see carries no weight in any conversation aside from those you have with yourself.

Next, if size meant nothing, Pacquiao wouldn't consistently stipulate that boxers come in at Pacweights instead of division limits. Cotto refusing to cut weight back down to 147 was the deciding factor as to why a rematch between Manny and Miguel didn't happen.

Ponder that Pinky. Don't reply right away. Just give that a minute to simmer into your gray matter.

[nutz_n_ya_face]

Again, who YOU'RE willing to pay to see carries no weight in any conversation aside from those you have with yourself.

Next, if size meant nothing, Pacquiao wouldn't consistently stipulate that boxers come in at Pacweights instead of division limits. Cotto refusing to cut weight back down to 147 was the deciding factor as to why a rematch between Manny and Miguel didn't happen.

Ponder that Pinky. Don't reply right away. Just give that a minute to simmer into your gray matter.

Pacquiao vs Cotto 2 at 148 or 154 was never going to happen knowing Cotto last fight with Top Rank was the Cotto Vs Margo 2.

I give Cotto props for fighting Mayweather and making that $$$$$$$$. But the fight is 4 years and 2 @ss kickin' too late. But wouldn't matter that fight is still gonna do good numbers because Boricuas love Cotto and I don't blame them.

As a person Cotto is a cool cat but as a fighter and him fighting Foreman, Mayorga, and Margarito doesn't prove to me that at this moment he belong or even have a shot against Mayweather.

To me Pacquiao and Alvarez only have slim chance against Mayweather. Martinez who isn't with Top Rank is the guy Mayweather is ducking and Floyd is the one that wanna drain Martinez to 150 pounds.