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  • #81
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Coto couldnt dominate Clottey like Pac did without a CW. So most know Pac would have no probs beating Cotto without a CW. He can beat him without a CW, but didnt beat him without one.
    I think your a wee bit ******ed , Clottey was paid to lose by not throwing anything at Pac thats obvious , he even said he was supposed to lose in an interview .

    Pac REFUSED to fight Cotto without a CW , that MEANS they are very worried about Cotto unless he is drained , dont give me he coulda woulda **** , he said NO CW NO FIGHT !!!!!!! that says it all !

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Im not rubbishing Bradley , I think he will give Pac a lot of trouble , Im just putting it all into perspective , you cant ignore the way this fight was made , it only happened because Pac refused to fight Cotto without a CW thats what Im dirty on , and then Bradley was considered , its not about Tim , its about Pac and his manipulation , its always Pacs way or he dont fight I dont like what he is doing to boxing , its like a Claytons champion manipulating conditions so he can win .

      Bradley didnt duck Khan , he was promised Pac for signing with Top Rank thats obvious , thats why he didnt fight Khan , good ol Bob in the thick of it again . Amir is over rated to the ****house anyway .
      Then I'm glad Cotto refuse Pac at 148. Because I will never pay for Mayweather vs Cotto or Pacquiao vs Cotto 2 at 148 or 154.

      As of now Khan and Bradley beats Cotto at any weight class.

      However, Boricua's gonna support Cotto no matter what. If Cotto even wins 2 rounds against Mayweather is gonna be a celebration for the Floyd haters.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Pac can beat Cotto without a CW. FLoyd has always had a problem with fighting Cotto, but less of a problem when FLoyd feels Cotto has fallen to a level where he thinks he can be competitive with Cotto now.
        Anyone who takes retirements knowing full well they will return is not to be trusted.
        u are so wrong its not even funny, floyd tried to get cotto at 140 bob arum said cotto was too green, he tried at 147 after the henry brussells fight BOB ARUM SAID NO. these are FACTS. it wasnt until after floyd beat ricky hatton bob arum is like we can do business now and floyd said ef off. know ur facts.

        pac cannot get props for fighting feather fisted tim he cant. floyd is fighting cotto at a WEIGHT COTTO FEELS COMFORTABLE AT. lets not even talk about pac's rehydration clauses for his oppoenents in his contracts. BOB arum has done a great a job at guiding the career of manny, and robbing him blind at the same time.

        floyd as a boxer is in a league of his own. he is a fighter, hes not politician, he isnt a governer, he isnt a singer, he isnt a actor

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        • #84
          Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
          Then I'm glad Cotto refuse Pac at 148. Because I will never pay for Mayweather vs Cotto or Pacquiao vs Cotto 2 at 148 or 154.

          As of now Khan and Bradley beats Cotto at any weight class.

          However, Boricua's gonna support Cotto no matter what. If Cotto even wins 2 rounds against Mayweather is gonna be a celebration for the Floyd haters.
          cotto is not washed up at 154, he lost to marg who was suspected of cheating, he lost to pac at a catchweight with a rehydration clause, and yes pac is suspected of cheating.

          but mayweather outclasses him because that mayweather does his skill level is ridiculous

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          • #85
            Originally posted by hbonnie21 View Post
            cotto is not washed up at 154, he lost to marg who was suspected of cheating, he lost to pac at a catchweight with a rehydration clause, and yes pac is suspected of cheating.

            but mayweather outclasses him because that mayweather does his skill level is ridiculous
            Okay your right Cotto was washed up at 145 and not at 154.

            And by previously beating Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito nobody can beat Cotto at 154. Happy?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by nutz_n_ya_face View Post
              Okay your right Cotto was washed up at 145 and not at 154.

              And by previously beating Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito nobody can beat Cotto at 154. Happy?
              Washed up and drained is a world apart , Cotto has not lost since moving up and against better opponents than Gomaz and Jennings that were used by Arum to make him look good to sell Pac vs Cotto , now if you read between the lines , it stands out like dog balls why Pac would only fight Cotto at CW its painfully clear by wanting him first choice and then running of without a CW ,, its ***en obvious CWs are purely to advantage himself , too level the playing field is a throw away line that is in reality a pile of horse **** based on nothing more than it sounds right to John Smith , well the average John Smith dont know **** about the science of this sport , draining is not leveling the playing field ,

              Its very different going up because its closer to your natural weight without dehydrating at the end of your camp , going up you lose just a little speed but you gain a lot of strength , being forced down you are weakened because you now have to not only dehydrate to make weight , but because its lighter than your used too making you must carry less body mass throughout your camp right up to the 30hr weighin , if your way under your like ODH , your system shuts off now you need IV fluid infusions to hydrate your vitals just like Oscar had to gain 2 lbs , lol thats deadman walking !! , to Margo that left diuretics in the dressing room ,,,, with Cotto all we know is what he said about sacrificing his body for Pac , love him or hate him Cotto is an honorable man he didnt rubbish Pac he allured to killing himself to make the CW , thats all , you cant rag on Cotto for what he said .

              You guys can play all the fan games you like , but if you know the inside of boxing and you know weight its very different , Pac has played the weight game more than any other fighter in history , and in reality , thats a credit to his team because the hype worked and sold him as superman to the masses , but its running out , because now the CWs are not on , now he is have a very tuff time of things , they wont risk a full blown WW like Ortiz , they would look really really bad to ask for a CW , so they have no option but look at the 140 pounders because the good bigger guys that come to win with no CW will kick his ass .

              Like the old saying goes you can fool some of the people some of the times but you cant fool all the people all the time , its not hate with me buddy its knowledge on the things we are talking about , we are not debating maybes we are debate cold hard numbers and what they mean in boxing , its way beyond the average fan to understand whats going on with Pac and weight .
              Last edited by Reloaded; 02-16-2012, 08:15 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                Washed up and drained is a world apart , Cotto has not lost since moving up and against better opponents than Gomaz and Jennings that were used by Arum to make him look good to sell Pac vs Cotto , now if you read between the lines , it stands out like dog balls why Pac would only fight Cotto at CW its painfully clear by wanting him first choice and then running of without a CW ,, its ***en obvious CWs are purely to advantage himself , too level the playing field is a throw away line that is in reality a pile of horse **** based on nothing more than it sounds right to John Smith , well the average John Smith dont know **** about the science of this sport , draining is not leveling the playing field ,

                Its very different going up because its closer to your natural weight without dehydrating at the end of your camp , going up you lose just a little speed but you gain a lot of strength , being forced down you are weakened because you now have to not only dehydrate to make weight , but because its lighter than your used too making you must carry less body mass throughout your camp right up to the 30hr weighin , if your way under your like ODH , your system shuts off now you need IV fluid infusions to hydrate your vitals just like Oscar had to gain 2 lbs , lol thats deadman walking !! , to Margo that left diuretics in the dressing room ,,,, with Cotto all we know is what he said about sacrificing his body for Pac , love him or hate him Cotto is an honorable man he didnt rubbish Pac he allured to killing himself to make the CW , thats all , you cant rag on Cotto for what he said .

                You guys can play all the fan games you like but if you know the inside of boxing and you know weight , Pac has played the weight game more than any other fighter in history , and in reality thats a credit to his team because the hype worked and sold him as superman to the masses , but its running out because now the CWs are not on he is have a very tuff time of things , they wont risk a full blown WW like Ortiz , they would look really really bad to ask for a CW , so they have no option but look at the 140 pounders because the good bigger guys that come to win with no CW will kick his ass .

                Like the old saying goes you can fool some of the people some of the times but you cant fool all the people all the time , its not hate with me buddy its knowledge on the things we are talking about , we are not debating maybes we are debate cold hard numbers and what they mean in boxing , its way beyond the average fan to understand whats going on with Pac and weight .
                Yada..yada, yada... lmao.. ****in' pathetic.. And you are tryin too hard you b!tch...

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                • #88
                  Lol some desperate Floyd boys trolling these boards. Pac beat Margarito at 150 and Margarito was 18lbs ADVANTAGED, so dont make out Pac has the advantage now!

                  And Pacs resume before having his first CW fight even is still better than anything Floyd has ever done.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
                    Yada..yada, yada... lmao.. ****in' pathetic.. And you are tryin too hard you b!tch...
                    Went straight over your head lol , you dont have an orange robe and a tambourine do you ?

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                    • #90
                      Really? I thought his resume before Torrecampo was kind of **** myself.

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