Mosley and Winky Arent Officialy Done Yet......

[ny123]

Everytime I see you Avatar it just makes me laugh, I am sorry. That is just a funny a$$ picture man.

But Winky is done as well. It showed against Hopkins that he was way past h is prime and he looked like a shell of himself against Williams. Same for Mosley. Against Floyd, it showed he was way past his prime and not that good at all anymore, and he looked even worse against Manny.

Yeah Lampley had me dying the other night with those glasses.

I disagree Im in the minority but I thought Winky put up a great fight against Hopkins and looked bad after the fight only because of dirty fighting by bhop. Williams height and workrate were a bad mix for a rusty Winky. U might be right that he is done but im not ready to make that statement just yet.

[ChampBox@PR]

I aint reading all the BS you just wrote, I dont need a 500 words essay to see that this 2 are way pasta done and Canelo and Qulliin fighting them is a utter joke

[Russian Crushin]

Neither is Holyfield

Did you see what he did to Botha and Nielson? WOW

[DoktorSleepless]

Even if your points had some truth to them, it would only be okay if these fights were on ESPN. But this a fucking PPV. We're paying a ton of money for this shit. Stepping stone fights don't belong on PPV.

[borikua]

Ir Winky and Mosley aint done, Cotto is in his prime then.

[-DSG-]

in terms of there careers. Im not saying that theyre not done, Im just saying that its not official. If Mosley were to lose to Canelo & Winky to Quillen then it would be official but until those fights happen then I cant just start throwing dirt on them just yet.

It reminds me of that recent article about how boxing fans have just become so negative towards everything. Basically every fight sucks or every fighter is done. To me this is a great undercard so far if they match it with Winky-Quillen or Paulie-Ghost, and e****ally both. Have you guys seen the cards weve been watching? Winky & Shane are 2 of the greats of our era and everyone is pissing on these matchups or them being on the card. I dont get it.

To me these are 2 great fights or moreso should I say that they are 2 very "intriguing" fights and as a boxing fan, thats all you can ask for. Back to my main point. Winky was on the top of his game and retired after giving Hopkins a tough fight in the 1st half at a weight that was much too big for him. He then retired for 2 years, came back and got blitzed by Williams and has been retired ever since.

1st off, that Williams was the prime, so called baddest man in boxing Paul Williams. Everyone was sweating him and he was in beast mode. There were alot of people who felt that Williams was just a bad matchup anyways. Even in Winky's prime, they felt that Williams was a bad matchup for him. That fight doesnt prove he is done. Sure he's been retired for 3 years since but he's still "was" a great fighter.

If Floyd retired for 3 years, you will still give him the benefit of doubt that "maybe" just maybe he has something left that a regular fighter cant mess with. We arent talking about Winky & Mosley vs Sergio. This is against young, unproven guys. Now to Shane. He lost and admittedly looks pretty bad but those 2 losses were still to the best 2 guys in the game. People like to add dirt to Mosley because of the Mora fight.

However, in his defense I will say that the fight was agaisnt a naturally bigger guy in Sergio who was close to being a MW at the time. 2 other things were that I think Mosley slept on him. He just killed Margarito, lost to Floyd, and Mora wasnt seen as that elite level. He just saw him as a small tv fighter who he would just use to setup a Pac fight and stay fresh.

3rd is that everyone including Shane felt the bigger man Mora was coming to fight him. That he would use his size to outdo Shane and be bringing the fight to shane but it was the complete opposite. He was on the move and boxed all fight. You could tell that caught Shane off guard. I think Mosley should go back to his dad one last time to finish his career off.

Then you look at the opponents. Alot of people dont wanna see Canelo fight Mosley, yet they also think he struggled against Gomez, hasnt fought anyone, and that guys like Kirkland might kill him. You cant have it both ways. I think this is the perfect test. You throw in a big name like Mosley who may or may not have anything left but has a ton of experince. If Canelo ices him then you know he's then ready to go to the next step. Now bring on the Kirkland's and so on. Its the perfect final test before the next step.

The same with Quillen. You wanna see him against the big boys but question some of his opponents. Now he has the perfect fight against Winky to move to the next step. A guy who once was great, may or may not have something left, but has a ton of experince. Win and then you are ready for the next level at MW and should have no fear. It would boost both guys confidence so much.

It just wouldnt shock me to see Winky still have something left in the tank. You also know that Winky is a pro who wont shortcut anything, e****ally after the Williams fight. He's going to come prepared and be the best that he can be. Then, didnt we all throw dirt on Mosley once before? He was done already in his career after a bunch of losses or averager peformances and then he bounced back out of nowhere.

Is it totally impossible for him to have one more go in him against a young, unproven cat? Either way, how are these fights not undercard worthy? Its perfect for the undercard and if the 2 young guys win then now can they move on and start headlining there own big shows against the other tough guys out there that you wanna see

i agree nice card

[DLT]

Even if your points had some truth to them, it would only be okay if these fights were on ESPN. But this a fucking PPV. We're paying a ton of money for this shit. Stepping stone fights don't belong on PPV.

you are acting like its the main event. Its not. Have you been watching PPV undercards? Give me this one any day over any card in recent memory. Ill watch this whole card from start to finish when on most cards you only wanna see the main event and occasionaly the one before that

[DLT]

I aint reading all the BS you just wrote, I dont need a 500 words essay to see that this 2 are way pasta done and Canelo and Qulliin fighting them is a utter joke

so what do you say about Cotto or Margarito which was Cotto's only recent big win? How would Winky & Shane have done against those opponents that Cotto's fought?

[DLT]

Also, dont get me wrong. Shane has that punch drunk look to him but it just hasnt officialy been proven yet. A loss in this fight would prove it

[DLT]

Everytime I see you Avatar it just makes me laugh, I am sorry. That is just a funny a$$ picture man.

But Winky is done as well. It showed against Hopkins that he was way past h is prime and he looked like a shell of himself against Williams. Same for Mosley. Against Floyd, it showed he was way past his prime and not that good at all anymore, and he looked even worse against Manny.

I disagree with you about the Winky-Hopkins fight. Hopkins was a beast at that time and the fight was at 170 when Winky didnt even look like a real MW all the way. I thought he looked as good as anyone against Hopkins in the 1st half of the fight but after that I think the weight just got to him. I dont think he was done or anything. I think 170 was just too much for him, e****ally against a beast like Hopkins who had just destroyed Tarver at 175