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  • CHOWWOKKA
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    #31
    Originally posted by nomadman
    Bradley looks carved up. No way is that mostly water weight.
    Yeaa i guess your right

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    • Check
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      #32
      Legs don't mean much to punching power. Some dudes generate power from the legs like Pac but have you seen Shane Mosleys pencil legs for example. I'd say majority of power punchers have thin legs. Majority of power in boxing at least imo comes from technique of the punches, hand speed, and the fluidity of the punch. Foot work also tends to help. There is no exact science to punching powers because so many fighters have found it in so many shapes and body sizes but legs seem to be less of a factor.

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      • nomadman
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        #33
        Originally posted by Check
        Legs don't mean much to punching power. Some dudes generate power from the legs like Pac but have you seen Shane Mosleys pencil legs for example. I'd say majority of power punchers have thin legs. Majority of power in boxing at least imo comes from technique of the punches, hand speed, and the fluidity of the punch. Foot work also tends to help. There is no exact science to punching powers because so many fighters have found it in so many shapes and body sizes but legs seem to be less of a factor.
        Legs don't mean much to punching power? Come on man, legs are punching power!

        I see what you mean though. Hearns and DLH immediately spring to mind as lean killers, as does Trinidad, Cuevas, Wlad etc. I think the key thing here is proprtion. No matter your build you need to be built right to throw well. Having giant biceps on a small body or huge pecs and scrawny arms isn't likely to benefit you much.

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        • noStylez
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          #34
          Originally posted by Check
          Legs don't mean much to punching power. Some dudes generate power from the legs like Pac but have you seen Shane Mosleys pencil legs for example. I'd say majority of power punchers have thin legs. Majority of power in boxing at least imo comes from technique of the punches, hand speed, and the fluidity of the punch. Foot work also tends to help. There is no exact science to punching powers because so many fighters have found it in so many shapes and body sizes but legs seem to be less of a factor.
          Power is generated from the ground up and from their it's technique in using the bodies mass to produce power. So definitley legs do mean a lot.

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            #35
            Originally posted by nomadman
            Legs don't mean much to punching power? Come on man, legs are punching power!

            I see what you mean though. Hearns and DLH immediately spring to mind as lean killers, as does Trinidad, Cuevas, Wlad etc. I think the key thing here is proprtion. No matter your build you need to be built right to throw well. Having giant biceps on a small body or huge pecs and scrawny arms isn't likely to benefit you much.
            Kelly Pavlik is a an example of a guy with not very large arms, very lean. Throughout history a lot of power punchers have been very lean(like you listed) and that is why I'm behind the theory that it is all technique of the punch rather than power generated from muscles or big legs. I haven't been able to study all the power punchers but a lot of the thinner punchers right off the top of my head all seem to have one combo in common, a good jab followed by the straight. The straight punch seems to be one of the most deadliest and quickest.

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              #36
              Originally posted by noStylez
              Power is generated from the ground up and from their it's technique in using the bodies mass to produce power. So definitley legs do mean a lot.
              So how do you explain a guy like Shane Mosley and his power in the lightweight division? There's plenty of other fighters that had chicken legs that could punch like a mule.

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              • Danny Gunz
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                #37
                Bradley doesnt necessarily have bad intentions behind all of his punches. I bet most of his punches are arm punches, at least thats what it seems like.

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                • nomadman
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Check
                  Kelly Pavlik is a an example of a guy with not very large arms, very lean. Throughout history a lot of power punchers have been very lean(like you listed) and that is why I'm behind the theory that it is all technique of the punch rather than power generated from muscles or big legs.
                  Yep Kelly is another one, but like I said it's about proprtion. Kelly is long and lean all over; he doesn't have one overly developed muscle group throwing everything out of balance. He also has (had?) good footwork and distancing, where he sets his feet before throwing a punch, making sure he gets full extension on the arm. Timmy doesn't do this. He flurries and throws short arm punches whenever he's in close, lunges when he's on the outside and generally doesn't utilise his body in a synchronous way. It's part of his style of course, and his awkwardness, but it doesn't make for great fight stopping power.

                  Originally posted by Check
                  I haven't been able to study all the power punchers but a lot of the thinner punchers right off the top of my head all seem to have one combo in common, a good jab followed by the straight. The straight punch seems to be one of the most deadliest and quickest.
                  Taller guys tend to get better extension of straight shots, shorter to mid height guys favour the hooks and uppercuts. Look at Tua, Tyson, Abraham, Jackson etc.

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                  • nomadman
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Check
                    So how do you explain a guy like Shane Mosley and his power in the lightweight division? There's plenty of other fighters that had chicken legs that could punch like a mule.
                    Mosley friggin' launches himself into his shots, just winds those fekkers up!

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                      #40
                      Punching power has to do with kinectic energey. That movement energy starting from your legs coursing through your body until it reaches the end of your fists. Like a whip. Even boxers with subpar "punching power" would KO most guys just because of proper technique but like most people say, punching power is god given sometimes.

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