Comments Thread For: Team Bradley: Khan Drama is No More, It's Pacquiao Time

[Rome-By-Ko]

Funny how you've ignored a lot of what i said. Don't go all politician on me, just answering what you want to answer

"i pointed out you said Khan had 'never fought someone with a pulse' before Peterson, and thats rubbish."

Maidana had a pulse, Judah had a pulse (you've been on NSB for a while, you know people were saying Judah had a good shot to KO Khan early), Kotelnik had a pulse (In the UK, not many people thought Khan would ever be a world champ after the Prescott KO ). Heck even Malignaggi had a pulse... style-wise he didn't match up well to AK, but you still give Bradley credit for winning fights where he had the edge stylewise.

But to answer your question, i don't consider guys like Salita/McCloskey to be that good, but on the same token you can't then justify guys on Bradleys resume to be good just because of their ranking, because thats just hypocrisy.

Oh and Bradley was expected to beat Alexander... After the Kotelnik fight most people saw Alexander differently

Lies(as far as the Alexander comment go's)I was on here debating that Alexander had more skills then Bradley..This was days before they fought,and had I don't how many bet's..Most of my points came from that fight..I scored Kotelnik Alexander for Kotelnik,but most forget many people on this website thought Alexander won that fight buddie...

Most people on this site knew Judah would lose as well,except for the Khan haters(and we know we are not counting them)..But that was the fight Khan should have taken and I'm not mad he did,but Judah having a pulse is a bit laughable...Maidana Peterson and Kotelnik(even tho I thought Khan would beat Kotelnik and most I seen on this site did too)are the fighters who I say had a pulse going into a fight with Khan..

Now what fighters don't you believe had a pulse that Bradley fought??I would love to hear umm..Holt??That would be total B.S. and you know it..Won a decision and scored a KO going into his fight with Bradley...Mind you nobody still knew if Bradley was the truth yet as well..Beat Witter,are you going to say he did not have a pulse??How many fights had he won back to back??Can't be Alexander,dude was a unified Champ going into the fight..Not to mention undefeated..Can't be Abregu,have ya ever seen dude fight??Not to mention undefeated once again..Campbell held every belt at LW and was coming off a win at the weight..Most sad he had a hard time making weight and need to go up to Jr WW..He had a pulse...So who Casa I'll give ya that..But other then that who else did not have a Pulse??

[RR_1988]

After Pac Ko's him. He will be trying to fight Khan

[Ray*]

of course, that saga is over..We all move on! But it doesnt change the fact that Bradley called him out and accuse Khan or ducking, but then duck the fight himself when offered and no he didnt have a promotional problem at that time.

[TX_BOXNG]

Bradley gona beat ms pacman, floyd vs bradley in 2013

[prinzemanspopa]

Lies(as far as the Alexander comment go's)I was on here debating that Alexander had more skills then Bradley..This was days before they fought,and had I don't how many bet's..Most of my points came from that fight..I scored Kotelnik Alexander for Kotelnik,but most forget many people on this website thought Alexander won that fight buddie.

You are so full of sh^t.I'll give you credit,though....being one of the very few Boo-radley fans,you'll go to the greatest of lengths to defend him.


The general consensus was that Alexander had benefited from a hometown decision,and the numerous polls from a number of boxing sites will attest to this.It was an easy fight to score for anyone who isn't biased/a complete ******.


Either way,Alexander's stock dipped dramatically after that fight,and it's only dipped more since his pitiful effort against Boo-radley and another hometown decision against Matthysse.


And Abregu didn't mean a damn thing,either.

[Moop]

[QUOTE=Rome-By-Ko;11770741]

First your talking about a different time in boxing,When May and Pac where both on the come up boxing was a very different

We'll dismiss your first paragraph because your ideas from seem to be plucked from thin air, in that you completely forgot to support them with facts or even semi decent reasoning.

The game is to come up with a strategy that makes Bradley the most income in the long run. Lottery wins are nice but they don't happen often enough to make a career out of them.

Answer these questions with as a little fan bias as you can?

How the likely is it for Bradley to get UD or SD over Manny Pacquiao?

How did that work out for Marquez?

If a decision seems unlikely, how likely is a Bradley stoppage?

Imagine Bradley puts on a valiant effort and losses a close but controversial decision.

What are Bradley's chances of securing a rematch?

Where would the upside be for Pac and TR with said rematch? (Consider $100m Mayweather showdown and or retirement on the horizon)

If Bradley doesn't get the win, how much of a marketable asset will Bradley be for TR?

Consider the TR perspective. AA fighter i.e. no die hard minority support like a PR or Mex Fighter - Poor K.O record - Non fan friendly style - No olympic pedigree - No Margarito like infamy. Neither exceptionally fast or technically gifted - No female fan base of an Oscar - No Money Mayweather charisma. Not a congressman.

How easy/difficult will it be for him to secure fights against GB fighters with TR. Estimate the value of the value of those fights, he would miss out on.

>>>Maidana>>>Khan I/Khan II>>>Ortiz>>>Mayweather. (in no specific order)

How do they compare with his future opportunities with TR.

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Unfortunately, Bradley probably has to beat Pac in the realm of 118-110 or he will find himself out in the cold.

Hence, he becomes another Joshua Clottey, their respective abilities are irrelevant, as professional boxing IS NOT a meritocracy, Bradley's ability will have far less bearing on his ability to get big fights than said other factors.

[ts33]

Lies(as far as the Alexander comment go's)I was on here debating that Alexander had more skills then Bradley..This was days before they fought,and had I don't how many bet's..Most of my points came from that fight..I scored Kotelnik Alexander for Kotelnik,but most forget many people on this website thought Alexander won that fight buddie...

This is not even debatable. There was a poll on this forum after that fight and the VAST VAST majority of people thought Kotelnik won.

And that definitely swung things Bradleys way in terms of who was expected to win

Most people on this site knew Judah would lose as well,except for the Khan haters(and we know we are not counting them)..But that was the fight Khan should have taken and I'm not mad he did,but Judah having a pulse is a bit laughable...Maidana Peterson and Kotelnik(even tho I thought Khan would beat Kotelnik and most I seen on this site did too)are the fighters who I say had a pulse going into a fight with Khan..

Dude... Judah had a pulse. He was coming over a KO win over Mabuza, who btw beat Holt who you've talked up so much. It wasn't just Khan haters. A lot of people thought that a big left hand counter early in the fight could end things quickly. Heck, even i was worried about Judahs speed and power in the early rounds

Now what fighters don't you believe had a pulse that Bradley fought??I would love to hear umm..Holt??That would be total B.S. and you know it..Won a decision and scored a KO going into his fight with Bradley...Mind you nobody still knew if Bradley was the truth yet as well..Beat Witter,are you going to say he did not have a pulse??How many fights had he won back to back??Can't be Alexander,dude was a unified Champ going into the fight..Not to mention undefeated..Can't be Abregu,have ya ever seen dude fight??Not to mention undefeated once again..Campbell held every belt at LW and was coming off a win at the weight..Most sad he had a hard time making weight and need to go up to Jr WW..He had a pulse...So who Casa I'll give ya that..But other then that who else did not have a Pulse??

I never said Bradley hasn't fought anyone with a pulse. He has a pretty damn good resume. Read everything i've said again. All i did was argue with you because you said Khan hadn't, which isn't true.

Bradley has come out as the number 1 guy at 140 (although not lineal/ring because he never actually fought Khan), because Peterson beat Khan. I'm not even denying that

And good luck to him against Pacquiao. Not hating on Bradley, just pointing out your criticism of Khan is unfair

[Leohappy]

After Pac Ko's him. He will be trying to fight Khan

nah after pac ko's bradley, he makes a business move and vanishes into the sunset just like clottey.

[Rome-By-Ko]

[QUOTE=Moop;11770971]

We'll dismiss your first paragraph because your ideas from seem to be plucked from thin air, in that you completely forgot to support them with facts or even semi decent reasoning.

The game is to come up with a strategy that makes Bradley the most income in the long run. Lottery wins are nice but they don't happen often enough to make a career out of them.

Answer these questions with as a little fan bias as you can?

How the likely is it for Bradley to get UD or SD over Manny Pacquiao?

How did that work out for Marquez?

If a decision seems unlikely, how likely is a Bradley stoppage?

Imagine Bradley puts on a valiant effort and losses a close but controversial decision.

What are Bradley's chances of securing a rematch?

Where would the upside be for Pac and TR with said rematch? (Consider $100m Mayweather showdown and or retirement on the horizon)

If Bradley doesn't get the win, how much of a marketable asset will Bradley be for TR?

Consider the TR perspective. AA fighter i.e. no die hard minority support like a PR or Mex Fighter - Poor K.O record - Non fan friendly style - No olympic pedigree - No Margarito like infamy. Neither exceptionally fast or technically gifted - No female fan base of an Oscar - No Money Mayweather charisma. Not a congressman.

How easy/difficult will it be for him to secure fights against GB fighters with TR. Estimate the value of the value of those fights, he would miss out on.

>>>Maidana>>>Khan I/Khan II>>>Ortiz>>>Mayweather. (in no specific order)

How do they compare with his future opportunities with TR.

.....
Unfortunately, Bradley probably has to beat Pac in the realm of 118-110 or he will find himself out in the cold.

Hence, he becomes another Joshua Clottey, their respective abilities are irrelevant, as professional boxing IS NOT a meritocracy, Bradley's ability will have far less bearing on his ability to get big fights than said other factors.

I'll say this,outside of Bradley being KO'd or shutout,Bradley stock will rise...If Bradley loses in a winning effort his stock will rise,if he beats Pac his stock will shoot threw the roof..This is a win for Bradley as long as he takes advantage of it..Which I believe he will,Clottey did not come to fight which is why he did not benifit from his chance at Pac..Nobody wanted to see him fight again because he was so lackluster on the big stage..Will that happen to Bradley I don't know,but he has his shot,and that's all he can ask for...Is it not???

[ChickenTikka]

Even if Timmeh won, his famn base still wont be as big as Khans. Thats how big a fail Timmeh is in the spotlight. It makes me cry!