Mayweather and Pacquiao's Top 10 wins

[Kagami Taiga]

Oscar was a good win at 154, but he was past his prime as well. And prior to fighting Floyd, Oscar had retired fr a couple years and came back to beat Mayorga. Prior to fighting Floyd, Shane had beaten Mayorga and Margarito, when everyone was high on Antonio after the Cotto fight. Mosley beating Marg actually got him in the Top 10 P4P until he lost to Floyd. Mosley was past his prime as well, and it showed against Floyd. But, what he'd done prior to fighting him makes it a better win than the Oscar one to me.

ppl dont know most of the names on floyds resume. thats why they think guys like cotto have went thru stiffer levels of competition or some ****. but like i said yesterday, floyds run from hernandez to castillo 2 was absolutely amazing. its littered with top fighters in the divisional rankings and floyd barely lost any rounds (except for the castillo fights). t

[~AK49~]

I get what you're saying though for sure. Do you give Floyd a little credit if he beats Cotto at 154??? To me, that's like the Ricky Hatton situation. Floyd gets more credit for Hatton because he beat him first, but Manny still got his due for beating Hatton. To me, it's the same with Cotto, only vice-versa obviously.

Im not on either side. I like both as fighters and athletes, and appreciate their styles differently. I will give floyd all the credit in the world if he beats cotto. Tho cotto is not in his prime athletic/age wise, he has reinvented himself as a boxer, and he's a pretty damn good one at that, possibly a better fighter than he's ever been. And he's not at the point that he cant pull the trigger.

I think if you match Mayweather and Mosley at any point in their careers, Floyd beats him. Yes, it would have tougher against a prime Shane, who was also on PED's, or a past prime-still good Shane (2004-2007 or so). But, you can't really hold your hands down with Floyd and expect him not to tag you. Once Shane dropped his hands, it's over. Floyd just tags him over and over again. But, I get what you're saying man for sure.

I just felt like if you are going to say Margarito past his prime was a good win for Manny, than Shane past his prime was a good for Floyd right??? Mosley had done better things going into the fight with Floyd than Marg had done prior to fighting Manny.

Imo, margarito wasnt as far past his 'prime' than mosley was, he came to fight, to take hard shots and throw back hard shots. But all in all, The size difference is what makes the difference to me. Manny was a midget compared to margarito, yet was able to consistently hurt a guy a much bigger guy, let alone a much bigger guy who has a great chin. margarito didnt back down, was in the fight to win, and was able to hurt manny here and there. Tho neither win is a top win for either fighter, i rank msoley a little lower for mayweather, and margarito a little higher for manny.

[4Corners]

Im not on either side. I like both as fighters and athletes, and appreciate their styles differently. I will give floyd all the credit in the world if he beats cotto. Tho cotto is not in his prime athletic/age wise, he has reinvented himself as a boxer, and he's a pretty damn good one at that, possibly a better fighter than he's ever been. And he's not at the point that he cant pull the trigger.



Imo, margarito wasnt as far past his 'prime' than mosley was, he came to fight, to take hard shots and throw back hard shots. But all in all, The size difference is what makes the difference to me. Manny was a midget compared to margarito, yet was able to consistently hurt a guy a much bigger guy, let alone a much bigger guy who has a great chin. margarito didnt back down, was in the fight to win, and was able to hurt manny here and there. Tho neither win is a top win for either fighter, i rank msoley a little lower for mayweather, and margarito a little higher for manny.

Yeah. I really don't think Cotto has been prime since the beating he took from Margarito, plaster and all things aside. He's past his prime-still good and Manny got his due for that win from me for sure.

Both Mayweather-Cotto at 154 and Pacquiao-Bradley are good fights and the only people hating on either are the bias haters of both guys, but I think most know that.

Hopefully they can get their s**t together and fight in November/December, provided they win their next fights. It'll be very interesting if Bradley beats Pacquiao or if Cotto beats Floyd.

[turbotime]

The Manfredy win is underrated by a ton of people on here, simply because I don't think a lot of the NSB posters were actually watching boxing 10-15 years ago, but that's another topic. Manfredy was coming off a really good win over a prime Gatti, and hadn't lost in like 4-5 years in his early career.

Floyd's last 3 were tough for me. It was between Judah, Ortiz, Chavez, Manfredy, and C. Hernandez, all good or pretty good wins. I had to put Chavez in there and leave C. Hernandez out. So, the last two spots were between Judah-Ortiz-Manfredy. Could have went any order and would be good with me.

And in regards to Pacquiao, even though Erik Morales himself was saying he's not the same anymore after losing to Raheem and Manny, those wins still rank pretty high for his career.

Good points and very fair all around. I was just wondering your take on the fight and how you would rank it.

[FJRod]

The Manfredy win is underrated by a ton of people on here, simply because I don't think a lot of the NSB posters were actually watching boxing 10-15 years ago, but that's another topic. Manfredy was coming off a really good win over a prime Gatti, and hadn't lost in like 4-5 years in his early career.

Floyd's last 3 were tough for me. It was between Judah, Ortiz, Chavez, Manfredy, and C. Hernandez, all good or pretty good wins. I had to put Chavez in there and leave C. Hernandez out. So, the last two spots were between Judah-Ortiz-Manfredy. Could have went any order and would be good with me.

And in regards to Pacquiao, even though Erik Morales himself was saying he's not the same anymore after losing to Raheem and Manny, those wins still rank pretty high for his career.

Manfredy was a very solid win I would say he was much like a Joshua Clottey (3 years ago) at the time Floyd fought him.

[~AK49~]

Yeah. I really don't think Cotto has been prime since the beating he took from Margarito, plaster and all things aside. He's past his prime-still good and Manny got his due for that win from me for sure.

Both Mayweather-Cotto at 154 and Pacquiao-Bradley are good fights and the only people hating on either are the bias haters of both guys, but I think most know that.

Hopefully they can get their s**t together and fight in November/December, provided they win their next fights. It'll be very interesting if Bradley beats Pacquiao or if Cotto beats Floyd.

I wanna see cotto win, not only because he's my fav fighter, but i think it would speed up the floyd-pac fight. Obviously he is the underdog, but still is a great fighter who has the tools. Its very possible alot of people are gonna be very surprised come may 5th. As far as the public, non chalant fans, interest/perception, they would lose some interest with floyd not being undefeated, but as far as us, we'd finally get to be able to see that great fight.

I mean, both fighters are not getting any younger. I want to see the fight before it becomes a 'who aged better, whos skills lasted longer fight'.

[turbotime]

Top 10 for Pacquiao:

1. Marco Antonio Barrera I
2. Juan Manuel Marquez II
3. Ricky Hatton
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Erik Morales II
6. Chatchai Sasakul
7. EM III
8. Jorge Solis
9. Juan Manuel Marquez III
10. Oscar De la Hoya

[WitherGlove]

Floyd's Top 10

1.DLH - propelled floyd into stardom
2.Corraless- undeated supposed to beat floyd got destroyed
3.Gatti - not because he was prime but the manner in which the beating came.
4.Genaro Hernadez- Only defeated by prime floyd and DLH never beaten the way floyd beat him floyds first major fight.
5.Judah- Still solid fighter and the dislike from one another and faster
6. Augustas - Because the way the fight went he fought floyd hard (watch)
7.Castillo 2 - immediate rematch silenced all doubt
8. Ortiz - young lion 10 years his junior
9. Mosley
10. Marquez

Pacquiao's Top 10

1. DLH - without him Pac wouldn't have rose to stardom so fast.
2. Barrera - still a good fighter
3. Morales II - still a good fighter good rematch win
4. Cotto - still good, beat him convincingly
5. Hatton - still good, good KO
6. David Diaz
7. Ledwaba
8. Julio
9. Lucero
10. Clottey - solid fighter didn't show up to fight, Not Pacs fought.

[nodzilla]

I don't think Clottey should be on that list.

[WitherGlove]

I don't think Clottey should be on that list.

I put him because before that fight he was a good fighter..He just didn't come to fight.