TRUE or FALSE: If Pac loses to Bradley, his legacy takes a hit???

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  • IMDAZED
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Being on the decline won't hurt his legacy. But losing to Bradley,(or walking away with a win when everyone thinks he lost) won't hurt his legacy. It will simply make them realize that they overrated him far too much to begin with. Remember they once tried to say he was the best southpaw OAT
    I specifically said decline instead of legacy for that reason - don't think it would really hurt his legacy that much. Think the Marquez bout has already done the damage of making people re-assess things. And yeah, I think we all overrated him.

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    • 4Corners
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      #42
      Originally posted by AFighter4U
      a more accurate description would be his POPULARITY would take a hit.

      a legacy is the sum of all your accomplishments. regardless of what happens with his fight with Bradley, most likely manny would still continue to fight. and even IF he would lose all his fights from this point on, it wouldn't change or tarnish his legacy.

      an excellent example is muhammed ali and tyson. they lost badly on their last fights, yet they are considered to be among the best of all time.
      I think the difference is that when Ali and Tyson were nearing the end of their careers, they were way past it. After the 3rd Frazier fight, Ali was past his prime-not even that good anymore. Manny is not prime, but he's still good.

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      • 4Corners
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        #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Pacs had a career and a half already. If he loses fights it will be this part of his career.
        A win would be ideal, but if he were to lose it wont take away what hes done already. If people think Pac is the GOAT, and he loses to Bradley, people might think Pac is no3 instead of no1 of all time.
        So a little perspective is needed.
        A little perspective is needed for you??? I don't think his legacy would take a hit either, he's stll an ATG in my book. But Pac the GOAT??????? Get real man. Him and Floyd both are around the Top 30, not anywhere near the Top 10, yet.

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        • Elotero
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          #44
          Its his first time fighting an undefeated fighter since Jorge Solis.

          First time fighting someone who isnt clearly on the downside of their career since Jorge Solis.

          If he does bad the first time he gets tested by someone not on the downside then it confirms he was never really **** to begin with.

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          • GoogleMe
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            #45
            Bradley is a bad opponent? Who has he faced? Devon "the offcials boy" Alexander?

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            • hugh grant
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              #46
              Originally posted by 4CornersKid
              A little perspective is needed for you??? I don't think his legacy would take a hit either, he's stll an ATG in my book. But Pac the GOAT??????? Get real man. Him and Floyd both are around the Top 30, not anywhere near the Top 10, yet.
              Everyone agrees Pac is above FLoyd. So if you think Floyd is 30, Pac is considerabaly higher .

              Some people think Pac is the GOAT, and some people think that the people who think Pac is the GOAT are overating Pac, thats opinions for you.

              But ATGs of yesteryear who are mentioned in the same breath as Pac have lost to worse fighters than Bradley for sure.

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              • 4Corners
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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Everyone agrees Pac is above FLoyd. So if you think Floyd is 30, Pac is considerabaly higher .

                Some people think Pac is the GOAT, and some people think that the people who think Pac is the GOAT are overating Pac, thats opinions for you.

                But ATGs of yesteryear who are mentioned in the same breath as Pac have lost to worse fighters than Bradley for sure.
                No, not at all actually. Most reasonable and unbias posters, or boxing fans, NEVER consider Pac in the Top 10 ATG, let alone the GOAT.

                And a ton of people don't agree that Pac is more of an ATG than Floyd.

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                  #48
                  At this pint in time, nobody knows who the fuck Bradley is and he hasn't accomplish enough to be a great. If Manny were to lose to Bradley, of course his legacy would take a hit.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                    No, not at all actually. Most reasonable and unbias posters, or boxing fans, NEVER consider Pac in the Top 10 ATG, let alone the GOAT.

                    And a ton of people don't agree that Pac is more of an ATG than Floyd.
                    Anyone who considers Pac the GOAT you are tarring with unreasonable and bias brush. So maybe you are bias against Pac?

                    Yes im sure there are a ton of *****s who dont agree Pac is above Floyd. But any reasonable and unbias person does ie boxing fans rather than floyd fan.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      question: how many champions, who were expected to coast to victory actually lost and stunned their fans?

                      answer: quite a lot

                      one thing you should know by know about boxing is that any fight has that element of unpredictability in that you can't say 100% for sure who will win.

                      of course, you will have your overwhelming favorites in a fight, but in the end, any fight has a chance of not going by popular expectations.

                      as for questions regarding manny's performances against larger foes, i suspect that you have already made up your mind that he's guilty of taking super duper steroids that make him perform like super duper man, and NOTHING i would say or do will change that, regardless of how manny performs against his succeeding foes.
                      The problem with Pacquiao is that he honestly may have been better off losing than winning in the fashion that he did. It led a lot of people to reexamine their perception of Pacquio's success.

                      His legacy has taken quite a hit. It used to be that Pacquiao was a media darling. Well let me tell you that it isn't like that anymore ... at least not in America!

                      I believe that he was demoted publicly on many lists, and even many in his fanbase are saying that Pacquiao is now passed his prime due to that performance.

                      A loss to Bradley would only confirm what many now suspect.

                      Hate it or love it but Pacquiao is not seen as he used to be and he hasn't even fought Bradly yet. He's tarnished and everything he does now will be closely scrutinized.

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