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Arce beat vasquez jr more convincingly than donaire

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  • #21
    Arce is a gimme for Donaire. I know its next but...pass.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Arce is a gimme for Donaire. I know its next but...pass.
      while I see your point I do think sometimes fights like this should happen if we are to build fighters into bigger stars

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
        while I see your point I do think sometimes fights like this should happen if we are to build fighters into bigger stars
        Yeah definitely - it actually should be a good fight, action-wise. I'm just a cynical fan who thinks he knows the outcome, that's all. And Donaire has the potential to be the next one but there's something...something I can't place my finger on that gives me pause.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Yeah definitely - it actually should be a good fight, action-wise. I'm just a cynical fan who thinks he knows the outcome, that's all. And Donaire has the potential to be the next one but there's something...something I can't place my finger on that gives me pause.
          i think donaire is more concerned about becoming a superstar. i dont think hes ducking anyone but to me, hes more concerned about how much a fight is gonna make, so hes seeking out the fights that make him the most money, not the fights that are the most challenging. sometimes these two things are the same, but in donaires case, rarely has that happened.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
            i think donaire is more concerned about becoming a superstar. i dont think hes ducking anyone but to me, hes more concerned about how much a fight is gonna make, so hes seeking out the fights that make him the most money, not the fights that are the most challenging. sometimes these two things are the same, but in donaires case, rarely has that happened.
            I don't blame him. He's 29 and running a race against the time. In order to become a superstar he may have to move up another division or two. And I'm not sure he can do that (successfully).

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            • #26
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              I don't blame him. He's 29 and running a race against the time. In order to become a superstar he may have to move up another division or two. And I'm not sure he can do that (successfully).
              im starting to think he cant. and i dont even think superstardom is in reach for him. its a tough sell in the lower divisions, and there arent many bonafide stars around his weight anyways. arce, mares are mexican hits, nishioka, uchiyama, kameda from japan mebbe juanma and gamboa but nothing thats gonna hit on the level that makes the whole world notice him. and most of these fights are very dangerous for him. im not sure he'll be able to move up and win them. he has the height but definitely not the body mass.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                And Donaire has the potential to be the next one but there's something...something I can't place my finger on that gives me pause.
                I think his last couple fights he's trying too hard to be an entertainer, rather than just focusing on that task at hand. That's the impression I got anyway, especially against Vazquez. Seemed like he was just trying way too hard. Probably could have made things a bit easier if he just stuck to the basics.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                  im starting to think he cant. and i dont even think superstardom is in reach for him. its a tough sell in the lower divisions, and there arent many bonafide stars around his weight anyways. arce, mares are mexican hits, nishioka, uchiyama, kameda from japan mebbe juanma and gamboa but nothing thats gonna hit on the level that makes the whole world notice him. and most of these fights are very dangerous for him. im not sure he'll be able to move up and win them. he has the height but definitely not the body mass.
                  Yeah you're right. And again, he's 29. I know he's fresh but he's going to start slowing down sooner than people think. I don't know how much magic Victor Conte work - maybe he should go back to some of his old potions.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                    I think his last couple fights he's trying too hard to be an entertainer, rather than just focusing on that task at hand. That's the impression I got anyway, especially against Vazquez. Seemed like he was just trying way too hard. Probably could have made things a bit easier if he just stuck to the basics.
                    I think he's fallen in love with his "power." And plus, Vasquez had him pretty amped up. But still, that performance was very...ehh. He's a poor man's Roy Jones who would be better suited fighting like Oscar De La Hoya. It may be too late in the game. A shame really because he's blessed with so many gifts and his ring generalship is off the charts.

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                    • #30
                      You just continually top yourself in the ******ity stakes.

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