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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostI'm not saying necessarily it's his skin, I don't know what it is. If it's a single shot that caused it thats fine as well, the point is it was puffy early without much happening. It got worse as the fight went on but it's not like vazquez busted up his face. Donaire had a red/puffy eye early and naturally it got a bit worse after 12 rounds.
I said mostly jabs. That was mostly what he was landing. I recall a few good right hands but nothing major (watched the fight twice).
"As for his eye it became puffy in round 2 from a few jabs. I think that has more to do with his skin or his conditioning with the extra weight maybe than anything else."
i responded in saying that it had nothing to do with his skin or conditioning........it was him keeping his hands low. I know it seems unbelievable but it's just that simple. all of that other crap is just excuses. you repeated "it was because of his skin or conditioning more then ANYTHING else" totally ignoring the fact that the guy fought with his hands down for the entire fight. his eye wasn't the only thing swollen....his face was swollen, his face was very bruised with red spots.....& his nose was swelled. his face was beat up.
i can't remember donaire ever looking like that.
vazquez, a c + fighter caught him with the same shots over & over again.........
dude, i don't know what you want me to say............Last edited by americanbot; 02-08-2012, 04:18 PM.
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I love Donaire, but if you're gonna act like RJJ without having RJJ speed or RJJ reflexes...your face gonna get ****ed up son.
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Originally posted by americanbot View PostI'm gonna show you exactly what I'm responding to because somehow you have forgotten what you wrote?
"As for his eye it became puffy in round 2 from a few jabs. I think that has more to do with his skin or his conditioning with the extra weight maybe than anything else."
i responded in saying that it had nothing to do with his skin or conditioning........it was him keeping his hands low. I know it seems unbelievable but it's just that simple. all of that other crap is just excuses. you repeated "it was because of his skin or conditioning more then ANYTHING else" totally ignoring the fact that the guy fought with his hands down for the entire fight. his eye wasn't the only thing swollen....his face was swollen, his face was very bruised with red spots.....& his nose was swelled. his face was beat up.
i can't remember donaire ever looking like that.
vazquez, a c + fighter caught him with the same shots over & over again.........
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Originally posted by Filo View PostThat's because Donaire didn't have 400 amateurish fights.He had i think 40 and 20 + as pro. Plus get this, 1 fight at 122 and he already became a world champion.Didn't take 400 amateurish fights and 9 fights as pro against bums to do it.
you're obviously rubbishing amateur experience, calling those bouts "amateurish", and yet you think that winning a world title after 9 pro bouts is less impressive than what donaire has done because rigondeaux has had more amateur bouts and fought "bums" in his first 9 pro bouts.
who did donaire fight in his first 9 pro bouts?
i have to admit i'll have to boxrec that one because- like anybody else- i've no idea what all times greats donaire was up against...
let's see- ooh, all but two had losing records (one debut in there too) and of those two he lost one on a UD.
rigo has ONLY fought against guys with winning records so far, including one interim world champion, one european champion, and one full world titlist. so who's been up against bums again?
so maybe those "amateurish" fights were worth having after all?
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostHis face does swell and redden easy but you're right, he was a little more jacked up than usual. And ate a lot of punches. Not on purpose either lol. It wasn't a very impressive performance at all but Vasquez isn't a shabby fighter.
When people say this fighter wanted to "get hit on purpose" makes me lol. No one in the pro game would even dream of doing that, especially when any punch has a chance to f@k you up. Damn ******ed
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostI love Donaire, but if you're gonna act like RJJ without having RJJ speed or RJJ reflexes...your face gonna get ****ed up son.
still, at least he didn't do such a bad impression as this young fool and his "prince naseem"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJz05PuVO4
most of you will have seen it already but it bears a replay!
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Originally posted by CasualBoxingFan View PostDonaire did get hit a lot, but
When people say this fighter wanted to "get hit on purpose" makes me lol. No one in the pro game would even dream of doing that, especially when any punch has a chance to f@k you up. Damn ******ed
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Vasquez didn't have 400 amateurish fights.That kid is a natural fighter.Must be in the blood being a son of a champion.I am not knocking Rigo.Just saying he has to do more.He can't bring his resume of 400 amateurish fights and expect to get the big breaks in the pros right away.It doesn't work that way.Last edited by Filo; 02-08-2012, 05:21 PM.
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