Froch isnt world class, can anyone else see this?

[adamt]

Right lets see his meaningful fights:

Jean Pascal - was a close fight which could of gone either way in a neutral venue + pascal not at his optimum weight

Jermaine Taylor - was getting outboxed EVERY round till the last round where he got the knockout

Andre Dirrell - won a close split decision which many including myself think he lost

Mikkel Kessler - lost , was competitive but kessler the clear winner

Arthur Anbraham - won fairly but everyone knew after dirrell beat him up that he was an overrated 1 dimensional brawler

Glen Johnson - fairly won, but johnson a 42 year old man was WAY past his good days

Andre Ward - Lost a clear UD, outclassed in every way

- if Dirrell wasnt robbed and stayed in the tournament it would have been Ward-Dirrell final. now that would have been a great competitive final!

Now lets look at Frochs personality .. he is +arrogant and deluded, he talks a good game but rarely lives up to it.
constantly bragging about his granit chin and huge punching power, yet has knocked know one down in his last 5 fights, let alone knock out anyone

i think he said in all the above fights, in the pre-fight interviews that he is gonna knock them out.
His power is average oin the world elite level
J Taylor always gasses out in the end of fights, so that was nothing incredible


How can anyone like this d**khead, the only thing i give him credit for is fighting anyone, which is good for boxing

so why are people classing him as a world class elite fighter? whats your rationale?


Im English by the way so it isnt a USA - UK thing, but Andre Ward is the best SMW since Calzaghe and is a gent , unlike Froch

[Russian Crushin]

Skillwise, no

But he always finds a way to win using heart, toughness and persistance

Basically he is outdoing what was expected of him and thats admirable

[Evil Abed]

Right lets see his meaningful fights:

Jean Pascal - was a close fight which could of gone either way in a neutral venue + pascal not at his optimum weight

Jermaine Taylor - was getting outboxed EVERY round till the last round where he got the knockout

Andre Dirrell - won a close split decision which many including myself lost

Mikkel Kessler - lost , was competitive but kessler the clear winner

Arthur Anbraham - won fairly but everyone knew after dirrell beat him up that he was an overrated 1 dimensional brawler

Glen Johnson - fairly won, but johnson a 42 year old man was WAY past his good days

Andre Ward - Lost aclear UD, outclassed in every way

- if Dirrell wasnt robbed and stayed in the tournament it would have been Ward-Dirrell final. now that would have been a great competitive final!

Now lets look at Frochs personality .. he is +arrogant and deluded, he talks a good game but rarely lives up to it.
constantly bragging about his granit chin and huge punching power, yet has knocked know one down in his last 5 fights, let alone knock out anyone

i think he said in all the above fights, in the pre-fight interviews that he is gonna knock them out.
His power is average oin the world elite level
J Taylor always gasses out in the end of fights, so that was nothing incredible


How can anyone like this d**khead, the only thing i give him credit for is fighting anyone, which is good for boxing

Im English by the way so it isnt a USA - UK thing, but Andre Ward is the best SMW since Calzaghe and is a gent , unlike Froch

Bullsh$t.

Froch beat Pascal and Jean was fine at that weight. It was not close. Froch was the clear winner.

When you start with such a bad observation I can't really trust the rest. You can nitpick any resume.

[Jack Napier]

as a boxer, no he isn't
but he still wins and established himself as #2 in a tough division
he only lost clearly to Ward, which is hardly a crime
and the Kessler fight coulda gone either way or been a draw
he shoulda lost to Dirrell, but fuck Dirrell, glad they gave it to Froch
Froch isn't skilled but he's exciting and has a good resume
he deserves some respect

[turbotime]

Depends on your definition of world-class. He's already won a world title twice so there goes that argument.

But if you mean world-class as in being the BEST in your division, and only THE BEST in your division, then no, world-class he is not.

So only Kessler, Bute and Ward are world-class at the weight and everyone else are what, then?

[Russian Crushin]

Depends on your definition of world-class. He's already won a world title twice so there goes that argument.

But if you mean world-class as in being the BEST in your division, and only THE BEST in your division, then no, world-class he is not.

So only Kessler, Bute and Ward are world-class at the weight and everyone else are what, then?

The wAy I see it is if there was only 1 belt, would he be a champ

[Hougigo]

I like watching him though... entertaining. That fight with Johnson had me thinking, well maybe Johnson isn't past it.... then he fought Bute and was shut out.
I like Froch though, I think he's a good watch compared to some other SMW's.... cough cough

[Walt Liquor]

I tink you mean elite.


Froch was competiive with the best in the world at his weight and beat some of the best smw's, therefore he operates at a world class level.

[Bushbaby]

If Froch isn't world class, then who the **** is?? I mean really.

[ИATAS]

Watching Froch fight is like seeing poetry with your own eyes
hearing bright & beautiful colors
feeling the smell of roses
tasting the musical brilliance of Ludwig van Beethoven

Watching Carl Froch fight is like making love for the first time.

It's something truly magical and so personal words cannot describe the happiness and fulfillment one feels inside.