Bradley and Cotto as opponents

[Alpha & Omega]

I think both fights will be more competitive than people expect. I think Pac and Floyd are both going to win but it could get interesting. Neither Cotto nor Bradley are winning a decision, and neither have the power I don't think to stop Pac or Floyd, so that being said...I am not sure what options they have to win (i.e. Bradley and Cotto).

For Floyd/Cotto, I think it will be interesting because it is at 154. This will be a better version of Cotto than Manny faced because he is not weight drained, and he is coming off of several wins, not a brutal loss. Cotto feels rejuvenated with his new trainer and at JMW. However, I am just not sure if Cotto is fast enough or has enough power to hurt/stop Floyd. That shot Mosley hit Floyd with in the 2nd round of their right would have knocked over a bull and Floyd recovered quick and iced him the next 10 rounds. Cotto never had 1 punch power and no one lands shot after shot against Floyd so...I just cannot see Cotto winning this. I also think Floyd hits harder than people think and he may do some damage to Cotto over the course of the fight. I predict a UD or late rounds stoppage in favor of Floyd. But Cotto may surprise everyone, I am keeping that in the back of my mind. The only chance Cotto has to beat Floyd is by stopping him, that is a fact. There is no way in hell I think Cotto can outbox Floyd for 12 rounds.

I think the Pac/Bradley matchup is more open for an upset though to be honest. Pac has not fought anyone who is in their prime, fast and aggressive in a long long time. If Bradley can take Mannys shots or do a good job of avoiding them, Pac may be in for a long night. Pac is also open for shots, he always has been and he has definitely slowed down. Also after the JMM fight his confidence will be suspect as well. I think Bradley is cagier and more determined than people think and this may be a close call. I do predict Manny to win but I think it will be a SD, or questionable UD to setup JMM/Manny IV (or Floyd in the spring of '13). Or I could be wrong and Manny may come out guns blazing because of the JMM fight and beat Bradley convincingly. Call me crazy, but I just do not see Manny stopping Bradley, my gut is telling me that isn't going to happen.

[M.I Truth ?]

I dont agree with the weight part. I think Floyd & Pac win either way but I think its a lil different. IDK how Cotto would look at WW right now but Floyd would flat out destroy him at that weight. He probably does it anyway but he doesnt have any chance at all at WW.

The same for Bradley. Castillo was a good fighter who bullied every single guy at LW but even when he fought bums at 140 he looked like crap. Bradley is the same way. He's a beast at 140 but at WW I dont think he's anything special at all. I think Pac beats him either way but its alot better fight at 140. At WW Pac runs through him in 5 or less IMO.

I don't think weight will be too much of an issue for Pacquiao and Bradley. Yes Bradley is coming up to welterweight again but I don't see it having a negative effect in this case. Like when Floyd fought Hatton you have to consider that the "bigger guy" actually spent most of his career at a lower weight class than the "smaller guy". Bradley would be at disadvantage perhaps against a bigger welterweight were the physical difference is more pronounced. In this case I think he enters the ring the same size he would at 140lbs. The weight with Floyd and Cotto favors Cotto. Its what helps make this fight intriguing.

that killer instinct retired the moment he made congress

I think its still there. He just has to be in with the right type of guys. Pacquiao gets a bit frustrated when guys don't play into what he is trying to do.

To long to read, however there is a very good reason why Cotto is good for Floyd & not Pacman.

It's weightclass. Floyd doesn't need a drained Cotto. However even though the general concensus is that Pacman beats Cotto at any weight, for some really weird reason team Pacman wants none of Cotto above 148. It doesn't take rocket science for me, but others are confused by that.

I know its a long post but take a look when you get a chance. I would like to hear your feedback.

I feel both as opponents on certain levels, they are quality guys that were certainly at the front of the line of available opposition. I still don't think either challenger can win though.

I have no issue with Manny choosing Bradley, he is a reasonable credible opponent who is about the same size, Bradley is a bit beefier but height and range they are close. I don't think Manny will run through him because Bradley is good at limiting what the other guys does, but I think it will take everything he has to limit Manny leaving little in the way in terms of offense.

I have no issue with Floyd chosing Cotto because it is a fight people have wanted for a long time plus Cotto seems to be back on track and he is a quality credible opponent. I don't find Cotto all that much different than in the past but I never gave Cotto much of a shot so hard to change that stance.

It is so tiresome getting hung up marginal issues though.

Good points

[ManOfVictory]

cotto has no shot in hell!
Bradley might surprise us all.......

[brently1979]

I've been critical of Floyd over recent time, but I have not problem with him fighting Cotto at 154.

As for the Pac vs. Bradley, I'm not that interested in it.

[DAN916]

Mayweather couldnt get the Pac fight so he made the second fight most money generating fight possible which is Cotto and he deserves the $30 million payday.

[-FLIP-]

First thread I read in a while from this section that actually makes sense.

I would also add that Mayweather is fighting Cotto at 154. If Mayweather fought Cotto before going into "retirement" it probably would be at 147. This fight at 154 should be more competitive.

[M.I Truth ?]

I've been critical of Floyd over recent time, but I have not problem with him fighting Cotto at 154.

As for the Pac vs. Bradley, I'm not that interested in it.

Yeah I think as fans sometimes we get overly critical and dont realize when we have someting of quality in front of us.

[seanthetaxi]

Cotto's not the same because he's been through many tough fights
yes he was better at WW, but that's because he was younger/fresher
functionally, he's the same fighter, though with less power
and Pac beat bigger WW's with ease because he was faster than them
has nothing to do with him supposedly growing into a WW frame
Pac is physically just a JWW with speed that allows him to beat WW's
he won't have the same speed advantage over Bradley as other WW's
and he sure as hell isn't gonna be stronger than Tim at WW
don't see any reason why the weight matters in these fights



just fine, not good
it was nothing but a tuneup/tryout at the weight

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[M.I Truth ?]

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I dont get it...lol

[seanthetaxi]

I dont get it...lol

You don't like steaks?