Now all of a sudden Bradley sucks and Cotto is reborn? LOL.

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  • chito
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    #101
    both are interesting fights. all fans saying otherwise are not boxing fans, imo!

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    • mellow_mood
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      #102
      Originally posted by talip bin osman
      miguel cotto's best days was during his welterweight days doncha think?
      when he was allowed to came in @ 147 .. yeah .. I totally agree..


      145.... not.

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      • The_Sandman
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        #103
        They are both legitimate fights. My only problem with these two fights is that they are replacement fights for the biggest fight.

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        • #1Assassin
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          #104
          ppl are simply giving floyd credit (and rightfully so) for being willing to fight cotto at 154, a weight cotto is comftorable at and mayweather is not rather than having the oposite situation at 147. you might recall a certain congressman forcing cotto to drop an additional two pounds and defend his 147lb title at 145lbs making a total mockery of the belt in the process all to get an advantage in the fight.

          and now history repeats itself with bradley, they could have a fair fight at 140 where they are both at their best. but instead pacquiao will drag bradley beyond his best weight and force him to compete in a weightclass where he never fought a top fighter before.

          i havent heard much of cotto being reborn or ppl flip flopping on bradley. bradley always had lots of critics, especially on this site. its those same ppl saying the same things about him now as before. meanwhile popular fighters like cotto tend to get "reborn" as far as popularity goes when they have a big win. the new wawe of cotto support started after he beat margarito not when he signed to fight floyd.

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          • pasawayako
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            #105
            What can u expect from the *****s. They will spin everything. Lol.

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            • pasawayako
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              #106
              Originally posted by Forza
              Not reading that essay

              Cotto at 154 is dangerous

              Bradley is a ****in bum
              example # 1.

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              • AFighter4U
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                #107
                Originally posted by #1Assassin
                ppl are simply giving floyd credit (and rightfully so) for being willing to fight cotto at 154, a weight cotto is comftorable at and mayweather is not rather than having the oposite situation at 147. you might recall a certain congressman forcing cotto to drop an additional two pounds and defend his 147lb title at 145lbs making a total mockery of the belt in the process all to get an advantage in the fight.

                and now history repeats itself with bradley, they could have a fair fight at 140 where they are both at their best. but instead pacquiao will drag bradley beyond his best weight and force him to compete in a weightclass where he never fought a top fighter before.

                i havent heard much of cotto being reborn or ppl flip flopping on bradley. bradley always had lots of critics, especially on this site. its those same ppl saying the same things about him now as before. meanwhile popular fighters like cotto tend to get "reborn" as far as popularity goes when they have a big win. the new wawe of cotto support started after he beat margarito not when he signed to fight floyd.
                1. i also give floyd pros for fighting cotto at 154. kudos to him for that.
                2. you can't criticize Manny for fighting cotto at 145 and bradley at 147 and NOT criticize Floyd for fighting a much smaller marquez at 146and force him to compete in a weightclass where he never fought a top fighter before.

                i criticize neither of them.

                i'd rather spend my time appreciating fighters for the GOOD things/choices they've been making, and appreciate the GREAT fights they make.

                for example, i'm rather looking forward to BOTH their matches. (though i personally think that both manny and floyd would win their respective matches)

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                • SCUD.
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin
                  ppl are simply giving floyd credit (and rightfully so) for being willing to fight cotto at 154, a weight cotto is comftorable at and mayweather is not rather than having the oposite situation at 147. you might recall a certain congressman forcing cotto to drop an additional two pounds and defend his 147lb title at 145lbs making a total mockery of the belt in the process all to get an advantage in the fight.

                  and now history repeats itself with bradley, they could have a fair fight at 140 where they are both at their best. but instead pacquiao will drag bradley beyond his best weight and force him to compete in a weightclass where he never fought a top fighter before.

                  i havent heard much of cotto being reborn or ppl flip flopping on bradley. bradley always had lots of critics, especially on this site. its those same ppl saying the same things about him now as before. meanwhile popular fighters like cotto tend to get "reborn" as far as popularity goes when they have a big win. the new wawe of cotto support started after he beat margarito not when he signed to fight floyd.
                  Using your own argument, did Floyd beat Hatton and Marquez at their best and comfortable weight?

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                  • eddoes
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    ppl are simply giving floyd credit (and rightfully so) for being willing to fight cotto at 154, a weight cotto is comftorable at and mayweather is not rather than having the oposite situation at 147. you might recall a certain congressman forcing cotto to drop an additional two pounds and defend his 147lb title at 145lbs making a total mockery of the belt in the process all to get an advantage in the fight.

                    and now history repeats itself with bradley, they could have a fair fight at 140 where they are both at their best. but instead pacquiao will drag bradley beyond his best weight and force him to compete in a weightclass where he never fought a top fighter before.

                    i havent heard much of cotto being reborn or ppl flip flopping on bradley. bradley always had lots of critics, especially on this site. its those same ppl saying the same things about him now as before. meanwhile popular fighters like cotto tend to get "reborn" as far as popularity goes when they have a big win. the new wawe of cotto support started after he beat margarito not when he signed to fight floyd.
                    I just think its funny Manny believe drawing blood before a fight can weaken him yet his fans dont want to believe weight draining his opponents can weaken them.

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                    • Frank Ducketts
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      This hypocrisy is hillarious!

                      What happened to the days of "why doesnt Pac face a young black hungry lion in his prime like Bradley and stop picking on old, shot, weight drained fighters"? Now all of a sudden since this fight is all but signed, what we hear is "Bradley sucks and Pac is going to steamroll him" "Who has Bradley beat" "Why is Pac fighting a 140lber" Etc..

                      I personally believe that although Bradley is an excellent fighter, he comes in with wild winging punches and its going to cost him in this fight. Bradley will have his moments, but Pac will catch him on the way in and KO him.

                      Now on to Miguel Cotto.

                      When Cotto/Pacquiao was signed, the haters came out in abundance and spoke about how Pac was fighting a guy who's shot, just got beaten down with Plaster, and is a shell of his former self. Not to mention that although Cotto at the time was a WW fighter and in his previous bout against Clottey came in on weigh in day just 1lb heavier than he did for Pac, they accused Pac of SEVERELY weight draining Cotto in order to gain an advantage. Lets also not forget that during the post fight interview when asked if the weight effected him in anyway, Cotto replied with "no I felt good. The problem wasnt the weight, it was Pacquiao's speed. I didnt know where the punches were coming from".

                      Fast forward 2.5yrs and now Cotto is scheduled to fight Mayweather. Listening to the diehard Floydboyz is hillarious. All of a sudden we hear how Cotto miraculously went from being shot to damn near prime again! I've heard how he is practically reborn and a new fighter under his new coach. While I agree that Cotto does indeed look like he's back on the right track, lets take a look at who he's fought since getting pummeled by Pac. The one-legged *** Yuri Foreman and even in that fight Yuri was giving Cotto fits up until he blew out his knee. Shot to **** Mayorga. One-eyed Willy Margarito. I give Cotto props redeeming himself against Marg, but its hard to give too much credit for the other 2.

                      The truth is Floyd needed a marketable opponent for May 5th and Cotto fit the bill. Fighting at 154 makes it look good on paper but we all know that no matter what the weight, Cotto will be too slow for Floyd. I like Cotto and will always be a fan, but he has about a 10% chance of winning this fight. So lets stop making this more than what it is. It will be entertaining but Cotto will get outclassed over 12rnds. I hope I'm wrong.


                      Thoughts?
                      Any version of Cotto would be outclassed by Floyd, Pacquiao included. You clowns called Bradley a coward for not fighting Khan and you post this bull****??? Cotto was never shot. You *******s are programmed to dis Floyd, and boxing fans dont hear your voice anymore. Arum knew all along.

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