Comments Thread For: WBC Responds To Rubio's PED Test Claims on Chavez Jr.

[Phenom]

Not saying Jr took anything but the fact that there was no testing in a championship fight (as required by the WBC) seems suspect.

also WBC didn't do the 30 days weigh ins for this fight this whole thing is suspect WBC should be investigated

[mushahadeen]

More WBC garbage. What a lame excuse!! There was a WBC representive at the fight. Why didn't he voice his disapproval of Chavez' action right then and there??

Because JCC JR calls the shots! What is so hard to understand about that??

[DoktorSleepless]

I'm not familiar with the contract situation. If it states that the WBC is reponsible for the tests then they must have had a major brainfart responding the way they did. If indeed it is up to the local commision to administer the tests then the WBC has given a promise the cannot keep.

So it wasn't the WBC that 'forgot' to test. It was the commision (according to the story).

I'm not defending anything here as it is plain to see this is shady. I was only taking issue with Rubio barking at the wrong door.

By default, I'm assuming the local commission doesn't do any tests. But they have the facilities to do them. Presumably, it's up the WBC or the promoter to specifically order the test from the commission. If it wasn't ordered, the commission won't administer the tests.

When asked about the lapse, WBC president Jose Sulaiman reportedly shrugged his shoulders and said, "we forgot."

http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...o-file-protest

Here Sulaiman is saying the WBC forgot. Sounds like he's saying they forgot to order the tests. If they aren't responsible for anything, he wouldn't have said anything about forgetting.

[Russian Crushin]

I'm not familiar with the contract situation. If it states that the WBC is reponsible for the tests then they must have had a major brainfart responding the way they did. If indeed it is up to the local commision to administer the tests then the WBC has given a promise the cannot keep.

So it wasn't the WBC that 'forgot' to test. It was the commision (according to the story).

I'm not defending anything here as it is plain to see this is shady. I was only taking issue with Rubio barking at the wrong door.

Ok so texas doesnt require testing. So how can Texas be a fault. Here is the WBC rules book, rule 4.9:

c) Antidoping Test Required. The antidoping tests are mandatory for every world title or elimination bout. When a site for a title bout has no antidoping facilities, a nearby city will be used. The WBC may print a form setting forth the antidoping tests and procedures and attach it to registered contracts of champions and challengers. An official WBC laboratory may also be established by the WBC. Both champion and challenger shall adhere to these procedures and policies, and mandatory drug testing will be performed pursuant to the WBC Rules and Regulations herein.

Ok so Texas does have facilities so they dont have to find another city but its the WBC's job to adhere the test.

But ok lets say the WBC contracted the commission to take the test. Lets be honest, the commission will not forget to do the test if they were contracted by the WBC. And even if they were contracted by the WBC, its still on the WBC's shoulder to provider their "customers" [rubio, JCCjr] with what they are contractually obligated to provide, so its STILL the WBC's fault in that situation.

Lets look at it this way. If you hire a contractor to build you a Maple wooden house and the contracter then goes to a Home Depot to buy wood and then builds the house with that wood. But then you find that the house is actually Ash wood. So are you be ok if your contracter just said, Take it up with Home Depot since they supplied the wood when you actually have a contract with your contractor?

[TX_BOXNG]

There is signed contracts to the wbc about a championship bout n should state there about drug testing procedures then rubios team should take action

[Russian Crushin]

By default, I'm assuming the local commission doesn't do any tests. But they have the facilities to do them. Presumably, it's up the WBC or the promoter to specifically order the test from the commission. If it wasn't ordered, the commission won't administer the tests.


http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...o-file-protest

Here Sulaiman is saying the WBC forgot. Sounds like he's saying they forgot to order the tests. If they aren't responsible for anything, he wouldn't have said anything about forgetting.

Yes exactly.

And even if lets say the WBC did order the test but it was the commission fault for not administering it, Rubio has a contract with the WBC and not the commission, so why would he ever have to take it up with the commission

[Russian Crushin]

There is signed contracts to the wbc about a championship bout n should state there about drug testing procedures then rubios team should take action

The funny part is that its a WBC rule and its obviously been broken.

But instead of trying to investigate, they first simply say they "forgot" and now are saying its not up to them, and that he should take it up wit hthe commission and not them

Its obvious the WBC can do whatever the **** they want because there are no consequence. When you make you own rules and there is nobody above you to regulate those rules, whats stopping you from breaking them?

[BattlingNelson]

By default, I'm assuming the local commission doesn't do any tests. But they have the facilities to do them. Presumably, it's up the WBC or the promoter to specifically order the test from the commission. If it wasn't ordered, the commission won't administer the tests.


http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...o-file-protest

Here Sulaiman is saying the WBC forgot. Sounds like he's saying they forgot to order the tests. If they aren't responsible for anything, he wouldn't have said anything about forgetting.

Ok so texas doesnt require testing. So how can Texas be a fault. Here is the WBC rules book, rule 4.9:


Ok so Texas does have facilities so they dont have to find another city but its the WBC's job to adhere the test.

But ok lets say the WBC contracted the commission to take the test. Lets be honest, the commission will not forget to do the test if they were contracted by the WBC. And even if they were contracted by the WBC, its still on the WBC's shoulder to provider their "customers" [rubio, JCCjr] with what they are contractually obligated to provide, so its STILL the WBC's fault in that situation.

Lets look at it this way. If you hire a contractor to build you a Maple wooden house and the contracter then goes to a Home Depot to buy wood and then builds the house with that wood. But then you find that the house is actually Ash wood. So are you be ok if your contracter just said, Take it up with Home Depot since they supplied the wood when you actually have a contract with your contractor?

Wauw. This makes the WBC look like puppets. Not that it surprises me. I'd be more surprised if this mess has a consequence sadly.

[ИATAS]

Ok so texas doesnt require testing. So how can Texas be a fault. Here is the WBC rules book, rule 4.9:


Ok so Texas does have facilities so they dont have to find another city but its the WBC's job to adhere the test.

But ok lets say the WBC contracted the commission to take the test. Lets be honest, the commission will not forget to do the test if they were contracted by the WBC. And even if they were contracted by the WBC, its still on the WBC's shoulder to provider their "customers" [rubio, JCCjr] with what they are contractually obligated to provide, so its STILL the WBC's fault in that situation.

Lets look at it this way. If you hire a contractor to build you a Maple wooden house and the contracter then goes to a Home Depot to buy wood and then builds the house with that wood. But then you find that the house is actually Ash wood. So are you be ok if your contracter just said, Take it up with Home Depot since they supplied the wood when you actually have a contract with your contractor?

really good post man, I think this about sums up everything.

[Russian Crushin]

Wauw. This makes the WBC look like puppets. Not that it surprises me. I'd be more surprised if this mess has a consequence sadly.

What do you mean puppets? They are the puppeteers along with Arum and everyone else are the puppets.

And what consequences can there actually be? The WBC ****s everyone over, Sergio, Rubio, Bradley, Angulo, Kirkland, Etc. And the list goes on and on. And all of these guys have complained and threatened suit but they are all easily shut down