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  • #31
    Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
    Doanire still beats Abner is my opinion and I am an Abner fan.

    Still will stand by the fact that Rigo would beat Nonito, but they won't fight him.

    I had Nonito winning 117-110 last night, but the fact that Vazquez was able to hit him flush several times the last 7-8 rounds of the fight, shows that Donaire does not have that stiff of a defense. He gets hit with the jab at will and while his skills were enough to beat a decent Vazquez, he wouldn't beat Rigo. Sorry.
    After the fight, they cut off Nonito's gloves, and his wraps were soaked in blood on his left hand, also i think his right hand was hurt as he wasn't using it hardly at all near the end of the fight.

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    • #32
      Donaire isn't afraid of Mares at all and he still beats him in my opinion. Though, if Vazquez can tag Donaire, and Nonito's D isn't all that good really at all, Mares can tag him as well. And Mares hits with pretty good power as well, though it may not carry to 122.

      If Mares isn't jumping up to 122, he should fight Anselmo Moreno in the summer.

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      • #33
        Pretty funny that Donaire is the best without fighting Mares, Moreno, Agbeko, Perez and now in his new weight class already made it clear he doesn't want Rigondeaux and will probably fight Arce, Rafael Marquez, fighters like that.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jazluvr View Post
          After the fight, they cut off Nonito's gloves, and his wraps were soaked in blood on his left hand, also i think his right hand was hurt as he wasn't using it hardly at all near the end of the fight.
          That most likely played a roll for sure, like how Floyd's shoulder did against Castillo in the first fight.

          Nonito is a great fighter and we'll know what his legacy is once he fights Rigondeaux, Mares, Moreno, Gamboa, Garcia, Russell Jr, Lopez, etc.

          He's not unbeatable, that's for damn sure.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            Pretty funny that Donaire is the best without fighting Mares, Moreno, Agbeko, Perez and now in his new weight class already made it clear he doesn't want Rigondeaux and will probably fight Arce, Rafael Marquez, fighters like that.
            True that.

            Nonito is a great fighter, but I don't think he should be ahead of Andre Ward on the P4P list, sorry. Nonito has done great climbing weight classes, but Andre dominated everyone at Super Middleweight. And the person people say he's reluctant to fight is Lucian Bute, who hasn't fought anybody.

            Andre Ward should be #3-4 P4P and Nonito should be around 6-7 in my book. Yes, he won the WBO Super Bantamweight title, his 4th title in as many divisions. But, he won it from a decent fighter, who made his first step up in competition against a tiny Jorge Arce last year and got TKO'd. Vazquez was a decent win, nothing more, don't let anyone fool you. The only two real fighters and legit fights he's had, he got TKO'd by Arce and lost what should have been a comfortable UD to Donaire, but was a SD for some reason.

            Nonito is great, but he will prove his legacy once he fights Rigondeaux, Mares, Moreno, Garcia, Russell Jr, Gamboa, etc.

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            • #36
              Mares would do better than WV2 but who knows unless it happens. Would love to see Mares vs Vasquez as well.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                True that.

                Nonito is a great fighter, but I don't think he should be ahead of Andre Ward on the P4P list, sorry. Nonito has done great climbing weight classes, but Andre dominated everyone at Super Middleweight. And the person people say he's reluctant to fight is Lucian Bute, who hasn't fought anybody.

                Andre Ward should be #3-4 P4P and Nonito should be around 6-7 in my book. Yes, he won the WBO Super Bantamweight title, his 4th title in as many divisions. But, he won it from a decent fighter, who made his first step up in competition against a tiny Jorge Arce last year and got TKO'd. Vazquez was a decent win, nothing more, don't let anyone fool you. The only two real fighters and legit fights he's had, he got TKO'd by Arce and lost what should have been a comfortable UD to Donaire, but was a SD for some reason.

                Nonito is great, but he will prove his legacy once he fights Rigondeaux, Mares, Moreno, Garcia, Russell Jr, Gamboa, etc.
                How does beating Gary Russell Jr, Garcia, or Rigo proves his legacy?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                  Pretty funny that Donaire is the best without fighting Mares, Moreno, Agbeko, Perez and now in his new weight class already made it clear he doesn't want Rigondeaux and will probably fight Arce, Rafael Marquez, fighters like that.
                  Donaire said he would want Nishioka next i think. But I think arum said that he wants arce next for donaire...which I'm not a big fan of, but I can understand now if donaire wants to take his time at 122.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    How does beating Gary Russell Jr, Garcia, or Rigo proves his legacy?
                    Well I am of course assumming that Russell and Garcia turn out to be really good fighters. If they do and Nonito ends up beating them at 126, as well as Rigondeaux, Mares, and Moreno, it wold greatly effect his legacy in a good way, wouldn't you say???

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                    • #40
                      WV2 would be competitive against mares

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