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  • #81
    Floyd May Be The Best Defensive Fighter...

    Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
    damn why are pac fans STILL so mad?! theres nothing wrong with being number 2. you can argue til your blue in the face, the whole world knows mayweather is more talented than manny as a boxer, so what the hell is the big deal, just accept it that they're both great fighters, floyd just has more natural talent. its not that big of a deal where you need to get your panties in a bunch and come up with complete bull**** to attempt to prove a point that will never be proven in a million years, so relax guys...
    Floyd may be the best defensive fighter.. but he is far from the best offensive fighter. Both men have their talents. Manny has incredible footwork, speed, aggression, and can throw punches from incredible angles. He is just a incredible an athlete as Floyd.. just in different areas. This would be a fantastic fight, Floyd and Manny... I wouldn't put money down either way simply because Manny has the power to change things in a flurry of punches in a blink. Manny has taken punches from huge punchers and I don't think Floyd could test that chin any more than it already has been. Maybe back when Manny was younger in fighting in the lower weight classes.. but not now. This one would go to the cards and with as many punches as Manny throws and how he steps up when he gets a challenge in front of him.. I would lean that way. But too hard to say. I can't bet against either man.

    And for those who keep saying that Manny lost the last Marquez fight.. wow.. just blows me away. The announcers during the fight kept calling it correctly.. everyone of the 15 people at my house that night ( about half and half Manny/ Marquez fans ) thought that if Marquez would have only fought those last two rounds it would have been either a decision or win in his favor.. but his corner blew it. Told him he was winning and he did not push in those last rounds. He lost it right there. I like Marquez a whole lot as a fighter, i respect all talented fighters.. so I wasn't choosing sides on this fight at all.. just watching as a fan. But we all agreed he gave it away in the championship rounds

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    • #82
      Originally posted by dlytle73 View Post
      Floyd may be the best defensive fighter.. but he is far from the best offensive fighter. Both men have their talents. Manny has incredible footwork, speed, aggression, and can throw punches from incredible angles. He is just a incredible an athlete as Floyd.. just in different areas. This would be a fantastic fight, Floyd and Manny... I wouldn't put money down either way simply because Manny has the power to change things in a flurry of punches in a blink. Manny has taken punches from huge punchers and I don't think Floyd could test that chin any more than it already has been. Maybe back when Manny was younger in fighting in the lower weight classes.. but not now. This one would go to the cards and with as many punches as Manny throws and how he steps up when he gets a challenge in front of him.. I would lean that way. But too hard to say. I can't bet against either man.

      And for those who keep saying that Manny lost the last Marquez fight.. wow.. just blows me away. The announcers during the fight kept calling it correctly.. everyone of the 15 people at my house that night ( about half and half Manny/ Marquez fans ) thought that if Marquez would have only fought those last two rounds it would have been either a decision or win in his favor.. but his corner blew it. Told him he was winning and he did not push in those last rounds. He lost it right there. I like Marquez a whole lot as a fighter, i respect all talented fighters.. so I wasn't choosing sides on this fight at all.. just watching as a fan. But we all agreed he gave it away in the championship rounds
      Been saying that for a real long time. I don't get how Manny's stock goes down or people start to pick duck, cherry-pick mayweather to outclass him just because he had ANOTHER tough fight with Marquez. Marquez got Pac figured out and styles make fights. Pacs performance against him has absolutely no indication on how he would perform vs. Floyd. **** TRIANGLE THEORIES!

      OH, AND COTTO IS ABSOLUTELY BETTER THAN BRADLEY IN EVERY ASPECT. Young and hungry and undefeated...OK, so what? Losing makes you better and watch him lose to Pac anyway, maybe even get better afterwards, I wish him luck but I just can't see him winning. Bradley is overrated, just like Sergio.

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      • #83
        This is just another of Roache's tactics to discredit Manny's opponent next week he's going to say Manny willl knock Bradley out in less than 2rds. We should all know by now how he operates. How ever I do agree with him.

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        • #84
          Any fool can say who is #1 or 2. Neither Floyd nor Pac has got into the ring to fight each other. One thing is for sure, Pac will fight anybody, Floyd has a history retiring every year when an up-an-coming threat comes along, waiting to fight the fighters after they have lost to see how to beat them.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by vinny2006 View Post
            Any fool can say who is #1 or 2. Neither Floyd nor Pac has got into the ring to fight each other. One thing is for sure, Pac will fight anybody, Floyd has a history retiring every year when an up-an-coming threat comes along, waiting to fight the fighters after they have lost to see how to beat them.
            Ha ha ha ha! That's a good one. Pac didn't even want to fight Cotto who he beat bad at a catch weight because he couldn't get another weight advantage. Who did Pac beat in WW that held any significance aside from Cotto and that fight wasn't even at the full limit? He ducked Mosley in 09 BIG TIME when Shane was the #1 guy. Then he fights Marquez at a 144 catch weight, gets a questionable win and the most money and won't fight him again because Koncz advised him not to? To ignore this fact shows fanboyism. Pac is a hype job. It's ok to hate Floyd personally because dude is a b!tc# @ss by the way he be acting but when it's all said and done. Pac will play 2nd fiddle in the history of the sport. You can say whatever but just make sure you mark my words.
            Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-05-2012, 11:32 AM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by -Lowkey- View Post
              Marquez does hit harder, I have seen quite a few people overrating Bradley honestly I don't see him causing Pac to many problems at all.
              Bradley is going to be a hard fight for Pac and remember I said it. Bradley movement alone is going to frustrate & confuse Manny.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by dlytle73 View Post
                Floyd may be the best defensive fighter.. but he is far from the best offensive fighter. Both men have their talents. Manny has incredible footwork, speed, aggression, and can throw punches from incredible angles.
                ???? Floyd is the most accurate puncher in the sport of boxing. He out connects all of his opponents. Where have you been? Manny does not have incredible foot work, sorry dude but that is false. Throwing punches off balance and jumping up off of the ring when he punches as well. Pac can't even effectively cut off the ring. Mosley and Marquez was just moving to their right to throw Manny off. Come on. Floyd is technically better that Pac hands down. Also add that Floyd has the best defense in the sport as well and Pac blocks punches with his face. Pac is faster than a lot of people but slower fighters hit him more then they should have. All Marquez had to do was be patient and time Pac with counters. He stopped Pac's work rate dramatically.
                Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-05-2012, 04:09 PM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by PRking718 View Post
                  Been saying that for a real long time. I don't get how Manny's stock goes down or people start to pick duck, cherry-pick mayweather to outclass him just because he had ANOTHER tough fight with Marquez. Marquez got Pac figured out and styles make fights. Pacs performance against him has absolutely no indication on how he would perform vs. Floyd. **** TRIANGLE THEORIES!

                  OH, AND COTTO IS ABSOLUTELY BETTER THAN BRADLEY IN EVERY ASPECT. Young and hungry and undefeated...OK, so what? Losing makes you better and watch him lose to Pac anyway, maybe even get better afterwards, I wish him luck but I just can't see him winning. Bradley is overrated, just like Sergio.
                  Listen man, even Freddie Roach said that Floyd is a problem for Pac style wise and that he would have to change Pac's style up YEARS ago and most recently after the 3rd JMM fight because of what Marquez did to Pac in that last fight. Stop fronting and give props where it is due.

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                  • #89
                    Grustler servin these mutha****as, I love it lmao, I would give you more Rep but don't got no more right now, IOU.

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