Is Marquez a harder puncher than Bradley?

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  • joseph5620
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
    Good reference. Lol'd inside at that.
    I'm not surprised that you're dumb enough to equate Marquez power advantage over Bradley to a car and a bicycle.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
      I should red k you just for such a dumb question. Bradley has like a 35% ko ratio.
      What's Marquez KO ratio at 140-147?

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      • BigStereotype
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        #73
        Originally posted by New England
        pacquiao could probably fight at LW if the money was right
        most of the experts i hear speculating about his natural fighting weight think he's somewhere between a LW and jr WW
        about 138 lbs

        he's eating like a horse to get to WW
        he's not a natural WW by a long shot


        he can hang with a WW, but he's not a natural WW


        and i dont think pacquiao was ever close to being ready to go in the most recent marquez fight
        He ain't a natural welterweight, but saying he's not a "Real" welterweight (what does that even mean?) isn't really accurate. He's beat the tar out of some pretty good welterweights and has taken their best shots. Cotto hit him with some absolutely titanic punches and he just grinned them off.

        And there's a HUGE difference between being hurt and being ready to go. Nobody's ever had Pac ready to go or even really close, so saying that Marquez didn't doesn't tell us anything. But he's buzzed him pretty bad on multiple occasions.

        You have to look at things with some gradation. It's not "Marquez is a massive welterweight ****er" or "Marquez is a bitchmade palooka." He's still got some steam on his punches and, like I've been saying, his accuracy and timing really help sneak a little bit more damage in there. And Bradley IS actually on the extreme end of that scale, he has ZERO pop. Even if he has some pretty good skills and handspeed so that people don't just disrespect him, he doesn't hurt folks too often either.

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #74
          Originally posted by BigStereotype
          I think it's been established that Pac is a legit welterweight and Marquez buzzed him on several occasions.

          A legit welterweight who made 143 in his last fight??

          Pac is at best a light welterweight, dudes can make 140 easy;

          He and JMM were fighting at 130 in 2008...

          Marquez wouldn't buzz big framed guys like Clottey or Oldsley.

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            #75
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            A legit welterweight who made 143 in his last fight??

            Pac is at best a light welterweight, dudes can make 140 easy;

            He and JMM were fighting at 130 in 2008...

            Marquez wouldn't buzz big framed guys like Clottey or Oldsley.
            If you're fighting for titles in the 147 pound division you are a welterweight. You can't have it both ways and claim "he's too small at 147" when he continues to fight in the division.


            He might be a smaller welterweight, but he's still a welterweight.

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            • Rome-By-Ko
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              #76
              Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
              Braley cant punch himself out of a paper bag
              So why have majority of Bradley's opponents tasted the canvas??How many People has JMM floored at 140lb or 147lb??

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              • F l i c k e r
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                #77
                Originally posted by joseph5620
                No it doesn't. I'm pretty sure if Bradley was fighting featherweights he would knock them out too.
                Is that against people relevant to his size?

                If Marquez can fight people his size and knock them out. Why can't Bradley?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                  Is that against people relevant to his size?

                  If Marquez can fight people his size and knock them out. Why can't Bradley?
                  That wasn't the question. The question was who punches harder. And from what I've seen Marquez has shown nothing that would make me believe he has a harder punch. His KO's at featherweight are irrelevant when you're comparing him to a fighter at 140-47. Which is why I said Bradley would knock out a large number of featherweights too.


                  If Marquez fights Peterson you will see for yourself. I seriously doubt Marquez will hurt Peterson more than Bradley did.

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                  • Sweet Pea 50
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BigStereotype
                    He was a heavy, heavy puncher at the lower weights. Look at his knockout of Jaca, his destruction of Jandaeng, how bad he shook up Barrera and Pac, he was the first to stop Pacquiao, first to stop Diaz, stopped Katsidis...Marquez could punch, man.
                    Think this is more of JMM being a great combination puncher, and counter puncher, then from being a huge one shot soloist.

                    I'm wrong a lot of the times. As far as JMM hitting harder then Bradley?


                    Meh......

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      Yes.

                      39 kayo vs 12 kayo.

                      Enough said.

                      39 KOs in the little man divisions. lets see if marquez can hurt peterson which i saw Bradley do plenty of times.

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