Comments Thread For: Team Cotto: Weight Was Breaking Point in Pacquiao Talks

[bluetuazon]

It seems to me that top rank and team pac have officially decided that they aren't gonna take any more risks with their cash cow. But instead of just making that clear they choose to be deceitful and snaky about it and **** like this is wat u get.

by ur logic cotto is a threat to pac and bradley is not????

[bluetuazon]

Cotto said that he wants to leave his options open. He dont want to be in the same mess, even when it is better with GBP. So for him to fight under their promotional banner and not signing a contract, he is not getting a guaranteed purse. The terms of this fight is non guarantee purse and a split of all earnings. Not 50/50, obviously. I believe is more like 70/30.

65/35 actually...

[bluetuazon]

Sorry to respond to you only because others wrote simular things. But, Pacquiao said BEFORE and AFTER the Margarito fight that he wasn't fighting above 147 again... Two factors you guys are missing Manny is a 140 pounder at best... Second you shouldn't be suprised if a guy has a fight at 150 and weighs inn at 144.5 against a guy that is taller (5 inches) longer reach (6 inches) and weight 17 pounds on fight night... Manny wasn't even 149 on fight night... To ask Manny to move up to 154 12 pounds above his walk around weight is kind of crazy. He is 5'6.5" and a 143 pounds and anything above 147 is too much... Floyd on the other hand walks around at 150 which anything above the 147 limit is JrMW. Which made the Mayweather vs. Marquez fight (catchweight) insane to me and especial when Floyd came in 2 pounds over. In boxing anything between 148 and 154 is a Jr MW because the WW limit is 147... Manny who has never weighed inn at 147 since moving to WW is clearly not a JrMW... Cotto says he is not a WW so I don't see a problem with Cotto asking hey even thought you said before and after the Margarito fight you will never fight above 147 again because you weighed inn at 144.5 for a 150 pound fight and was outweighed 17 pounds in the ring, knowing all that have you changed you mind? And likewise Manny asking Cotto hey you tried to get Margarito to go down to 151 before accepting 153to defend your own 154 pound belt, so are you comfortable at 154 can you still make WW? There is nothing wrong with both guys saying no... Anybody who thinks Manny should fight at 154 or 150 again for that matter is insane. He hasn't even weighed in at 147 for a WW fight yet and has never weighed in above 150 on fight night... Where Floyd and Cotto always weigh over 150 on fight night since both guys moved to WW... Easy to understand when you use reason. Manny is just to small for 150 or 154... Just like his classic counterparts that made him famous are... Nobody expects Barrera, Marquez, are Morales to fight at 150 or 154 so why Manny??? Because he tried 150 once and came in at 144.5... He's just to small to fight above WW, hell he is even small for a WW, PERIOD

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^watch the floyd pompom girls utter the "but pac fought and won a mw championship" line....lol.....smh

[tatangb45]

I do not think that we'll see another post all day that can top this simple, truthful & correct post.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...58&postcount=6

Only simpletons would not see the absurdity of this post.

[TonkaJones]

Sorry to respond to you only because others wrote simular things. But, Pacquiao said BEFORE and AFTER the Margarito fight that he wasn't fighting above 147 again... Two factors you guys are missing Manny is a 140 pounder at best... Second you shouldn't be suprised if a guy has a fight at 150 and weighs inn at 144.5 against a guy that is taller (5 inches) longer reach (6 inches) and weight 17 pounds on fight night... Manny wasn't even 149 on fight night... To ask Manny to move up to 154 12 pounds above his walk around weight is kind of crazy. He is 5'6.5" and a 143 pounds and anything above 147 is too much... Floyd on the other hand walks around at 150 which anything above the 147 limit is JrMW. Which made the Mayweather vs. Marquez fight (catchweight) insane to me and especial when Floyd came in 2 pounds over. In boxing anything between 148 and 154 is a Jr MW because the WW limit is 147... Manny who has never weighed inn at 147 since moving to WW is clearly not a JrMW... Cotto says he is not a WW so I don't see a problem with Cotto asking hey even thought you said before and after the Margarito fight you will never fight above 147 again because you weighed inn at 144.5 for a 150 pound fight and was outweighed 17 pounds in the ring, knowing all that have you changed you mind? And likewise Manny asking Cotto hey you tried to get Margarito to go down to 151 before accepting 153to defend your own 154 pound belt, so are you comfortable at 154 can you still make WW? There is nothing wrong with both guys saying no... Anybody who thinks Manny should fight at 154 or 150 again for that matter is insane. He hasn't even weighed in at 147 for a WW fight yet and has never weighed in above 150 on fight night... Where Floyd and Cotto always weigh over 150 on fight night since both guys moved to WW... Easy to understand when you use reason. Manny is just to small for 150 or 154... Just like his classic counterparts that made him famous are... Nobody expects Barrera, Marquez, are Morales to fight at 150 or 154 so why Manny??? Because he tried 150 once and came in at 144.5... He's just to small to fight above WW, hell he is even small for a WW, PERIOD

I hear what your saying & Pac is smaller than Floyd & I wouldn't expect him to fight up at 154lb. i just meant because he went up to 150lb for Margarito it could look bad asking Cotto to go down to 148lb but I agree with you. Your right there has to come a time when he stops going up & up & he deserves all the credit in the world for how far he has come up the weights. I was saying Floyd is right to fight Cotto at 154lb coz he's big enough to & meant instead of tring to make a fight with Cotto at a weight he's no longer comfortable with & doesn't feel reasonable, look to fight somebody who can fight at WW if thats where you want to fight. Think Pac-Bradley could be a good fight. Respect your opinion though.

I'm losing faith in Pac & Floyd fighting like everyone else & I hope what doesn't happen next is Floyd beats Cotto then tells manny to come & fight him at LMW. Not saying thats whats going to happen though

[tatangb45]

I hear what your saying & Pac is smaller than Floyd & I wouldn't expect him to fight up at 154lb. i just meant because he went up to 150lb for Margarito it could look bad asking Cotto to go down to 148lb but I agree with you. Your right there has to come a time when he stops going up & up & he deserves all the credit in the world for how far he has come up the weights. I was saying Floyd is right to fight Cotto at 154lb coz he's big enough to & meant instead of tring to make a fight with Cotto at a weight he's no longer comfortable with & doesn't feel reasonable, look to fight somebody who can fight at WW if thats where you want to fight. Think Pac-Bradley could be a good fight. Respect your opinion though.

I'm losing faith in Pac & Floyd fighting like everyone else & I hope what doesn't happen next is Floyd beats Cotto then tells manny to come & fight him at LMW. Not saying thats whats going to happen though

Maybe, you just mentioned the next roadblock. If that happens, be sure to bump your post.

[caifan81]

wow, manny lovers are so damn funny! its true that love really makes you blind. i love it when you guys say "manny is really just a 140 lber" when he doesn't want to fight bigger guys at their weight. why the hell did he not fight marquez at 140 then????why the 144 catchweight??? i mean he still got slapped around by jmm but still. you guys are so silly.

[Atreyu Khalil]

So when it was Floyd, the opponent was the right size, but the MGM was too small.

But when it was Cotto, the opponent was too big, but the MGM was the right size.

THIS

[caifan81]

@dunks...masterful post man. look, i swear to god i'm not a floyd lover but i took this side heavily this time around. manny, his fans and his team are full of it...i remember people really hating de la hoya and his fans but they were never this nuts.

[rambov]

Man Pac gets owned daily now. I remember when he was a god.