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  • Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
    and at the same time made himself look like a right tool. preaching about catchweights, now he is doing it himself! but what really takes the biscuit is his comments to cotto, "consider him undefeated because he fought at a catchweight, drained, not hydrated"

    even you must be able to see that makes him look like a nob.
    Lets just say Cotto was drained as the evidence suggests , as soon as Cotto left Arum he states he abused his body at 145 and was pressured to accept the CW , he moved up a division also showing he cant make 147 anymore .

    Now say he was really drained , then what Floyd said is right in a sarcastic kinda way leading into a fight at 154 in a promotional question and answer production .

    Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run , answer it ?

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    • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Lets just say Cotto was drained as the evidence suggests , as soon as Cotto left Arum he states he abused his body at 145 and was pressured to accept the CW , he moved up a division also showing he cant make 147 anymore .

      Now say he was really drained , then what Floyd said is right in a sarcastic kinda way leading into a fight at 154 in a promotional question and answer production .

      Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run , answer it ?
      So Cotto getting his sh.t pushed in by almost everyone of note at WW has nothing to do with him leaving the division? Who exactly was he supposed to fight afterwards? Rematch Mosley?

      You call fighting Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito II (CW btw) is settling at 154?
      The first time he stepped up to a true JMW, who is a lesser fighter than him skill wise, he lost.
      Last edited by BuckToothed; 06-03-2013, 04:37 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Lets just say Cotto was drained as the evidence suggests , as soon as Cotto left Arum he states he abused his body at 145 and was pressured to accept the CW , he moved up a division also showing he cant make 147 anymore .

        Now say he was really drained , then what Floyd said is right in a sarcastic kinda way leading into a fight at 154 in a promotional question and answer production .

        Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run , answer it ?
        hey ******, if cotto really a JMW, then why he asked Margacheato to have a CW at 150lbs? answer that ******! lol!

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        • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Lets just say Cotto was drained as the evidence suggests , as soon as Cotto left Arum he states he abused his body at 145 and was pressured to accept the CW , he moved up a division also showing he cant make 147 anymore .

          Now say he was really drained , then what Floyd said is right in a sarcastic kinda way leading into a fight at 154 in a promotional question and answer production .

          Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run , answer it ?
          It's a negotiating tactic. Cotto could probably get the 154 but he has to give up some percentage or something else. Pac is still the money man in that fight so he calls the shots and doesn't owe Cotto anything... right??

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          • Originally posted by Evol View Post
            Dunn please go into details like how u would do to PAC. So u said Floyd asked for it probably for advantages purposes. Well please go into details. So are u saying canelo is too big for Floyd but cotto is not? more details man I'm Lost here.
            Dude , Cotto and ODH came from the same divisions Floyd did thats why , Canelo is a fully fledged JMW that enters the ring a few pounds short of LHW while Floyd is a WW that was 146 last fight , have a think about what your asking and reflect on Manny Cwing Cotto at 145 , Clottey was fine at !47 , Mosley was ducked while begging for a crazy 142 but after Floyd whips him and he looked crap with Mora , Manny says ok at 147 , then Margo is ok at 150 , then JMM at 144 , then JMM at 147 , all off these were Manny stipulated weights even now he is fighting a LW-JWW for him a first time 147 and to top of he lost his last fights , its nothing but manipulating the weights in just about all of Mannys fights .

            Now Im confused to make ryme or reason out of Mannys ever changing weights so can you explain why he needed to have all these differences inside 147 division ?

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            • Originally posted by VoodooChild View Post
              It's a negotiating tactic. Cotto could probably get the 154 but he has to give up some percentage or something else. Pac is still the money man in that fight so he calls the shots and doesn't owe Cotto anything... right??
              Didnt answer it , because the second fight he did owe Cotto !

              Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run

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              • Originally posted by JustinFloyd View Post
                hey ******, if cotto really a JMW, then why he asked Margacheato to have a CW at 150lbs? answer that ******! lol!
                Its been answered dont you follow a thread , you just jump in and pluck something out your ass thats already been covered .

                Margo looked like crap at 150 , Cotto knows this , Margo with loaded gloves nearly killed Cotto , its easy to see why Cotto mentioned 150 for revenge , what weight did they fight at ?

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                • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  Didnt answer it , because the second fight he did owe Cotto !

                  Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run
                  Nope didn't owe Cotto a thing, he gave Cotto one of if not the biggest pay days in his career! He was still the money man and the draw in that fight, he calls the shots. Cotto could have gotten 154 if he gave up a few things, it's a negotiating tactic. You know like the ones Mayweather uses!

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                  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    Lets just say Cotto was drained as the evidence suggests , as soon as Cotto left Arum he states he abused his body at 145 and was pressured to accept the CW , he moved up a division also showing he cant make 147 anymore .

                    Now say he was really drained , then what Floyd said is right in a sarcastic kinda way leading into a fight at 154 in a promotional question and answer production .

                    Now also adding to the evidence Cotto had weight issues at 145 was the fact Manny called him out for a rematch which is very significant in all this , Cotto well established at JMW and says ok but no CW , now you tell me why Manny ran from the fight with no CW when he already beat the crap out the man and was the one calling him out , its still Cotto isnt it then why run , answer it ?
                    No it doesnt.

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                    • Reloaded is shooting out blanks lol!! I swear this dude is Dunn. All of a sudden he stops replying then this idiot shows up.

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