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  • The Big Dunn
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    #281
    Originally posted by VoodooChild
    The question is are YOU calling him a hypocrite right now.
    Yes, I already have. I'm not doing it now in this thread.

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    • HeroBando
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      #282
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      i put that there to show you there was no need to repost they were top 5. I had already acknowledged they were. there was nothing to refute. they weren't in the top 3, where floyd's opponents were.

      odh wasn't a 2 time champ either. i was talking about unfication at a cw.

      beating clottey at 147 has no bearing on whether the cotto win was legit or not. nor does it make the title legit IMO. his title is legit to you because you are a fan. otherwise, since floyd has won twice at 154-you wouldnt be arguing the merits of a canelo win should it occur.
      that makes it all the worse, get it?

      nice, so it's not just the title, but win in question. well, what are the implications for the big fight in september? i guess you're with floyd, canelo says undefeated either way, a rematch is viable.

      but you just opened my eyes: you have a guy that won his title at a cw (he didnt honor), and 2x champ asking this other guy for a cw. for 4 belts, including the lineal. thats cw belt galore. is the the catchweightest fight of all time?

      actually i heard that contrary to the rumors, Reebok will not be releasing the CW Kings. Underarmor will, to commemorate the sheer CW spectacle. Reebok will be coming out with the Catchweight Queens, to better reach their target audience, with their slighter builds.

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      • Evol
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        #283
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        evol read my 1st post where I brought up winning. Justinfloyd brought up people like me shiiited on pac's win. I responded with you can't ***** on something that didn't happen yet.

        you then changed what I posted to now someone is saying why shiiit on Floyd if the fight hasn't happen yet. lol!!!

        I didn't say that. you have this thing where you change what floyd fans say and/or parapharase and respond to that rather than the initial post. please stop doing that.

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        Originally Posted by JustinFloyd
        o yeah, you cant even type it! lol! your not bashing floyd the way you bashing Pac about CW, you even trying to justify it on other threads! lol



        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        its hard to criticize floyd, or any fighter, even Junama, srl, and odh all of whom I hate with a passion, for a title win at a cw when the fight hasn't happened yet. Did you consider that?

        heres the post i quoted u. see what the other guy said up there? where in his post did he mention anything about winning first? he said your not bashing floyd the way u bash pac about CW. Again nothing about winning first. Now when i quoted u, i never mention anything about winning first, Im asking u how come your not giving floyd shiiiit about CW the same u did to pac? its that simple, i didnt change your words. i dont care about the outcome of the fight i am simply asking u how come your not giving floyd any heat for the same shiiiit u gave pac? is that clear enough?

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          #284
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          that makes it all the worse, get it?

          nice, so it's not just the title, but win in question. well, what are the implications for the big fight in september? i guess you're with floyd, canelo says undefeated either way, a rematch is viable.

          but you just opened my eyes: you have a guy that won his title at a cw (he didnt honor), and 2x champ asking this other guy for a cw. for 4 belts, including the lineal. thats cw belt galore. is the the catchweightest fight of all time?

          actually i heard that contrary to the rumors, Reebok will not be releasing the CW Kings. Underarmor will, to commemorate the sheer CW spectacle. Reebok will be coming out with the Catchweight Queens, to better reach their target audience, with their slighter builds.
          if you feel that makes manny better or floyd worse fine.

          If floyd wins, i think canelo will have a loss same way I think cotto has a loss. if you feel better by saying canelo is undefeated because floyd said that about cotto to hype up his fight fine with me. my opinion isn't based on what is said. in the end, floyd has won titles at 147 and 154, manny at 145 and 151. nothing you post changes that.

          reports say canelo asked for 152 when he thought he wouldn't get the fight so your argument makes little sense.

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          • Evol
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            #285
            lol since canelo asked for it then its ok. hey lets bash pac for fighting oscar at 147! a weight oscar hasnt fought at in ages but its ok for floyd to fight canelo since canelo asked for it and its at a weight canelo has NEVER fought at. LOL.

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              #286
              Originally posted by Evol
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by JustinFloyd
              o yeah, you cant even type it! lol! your not bashing floyd the way you bashing Pac about CW, you even trying to justify it on other threads! lol






              heres the post i quoted u. see what the other guy said up there? where in his post did he mention anything about winning first? he said your not bashing floyd the way u bash pac about CW. Again nothing about winning first. Now when i quoted u, i never mention anything about winning first, Im asking u how come your not giving floyd shiiiit about CW the same u did to pac? its that simple, i didnt change your words. i dont care about the outcome of the fight i am simply asking u how come your not giving floyd any heat for the same shiiiit u gave pac? is that clear enough?
              see posts 263, 265, and 267. you came in late and missed those.

              i am simply asking u how come your not giving floyd any heat for the same shiiiit u gave pac?
              because I gave pac shiiit for winning the title at a cw. why? because I don't like it when the champion has to defend his title at less than the max weight of the division. since floyd hasn't won the title at a cw -I'm not giving him the same shiiiit I gave Pac.

              Do you understand?

              I havent *****ted on him as much for making the fight at 152 nor will I point it out as much if floyd wins because I use the 145/151 weights as a tool to piss off manny's fringe tea party level fans.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-03-2013, 02:36 PM.

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                #287
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                if you feel that makes manny better or floyd worse fine.

                If floyd wins, i think canelo will have a loss same way I think cotto has a loss. if you feel better by saying canelo is undefeated because floyd said that about cotto to hype up his fight fine with me. my opinion isn't based on what is said. in the end, floyd has won titles at 147 and 154, manny at 145 and 151. nothing you post changes that.

                reports say canelo asked for 152 when he thought he wouldn't get the fight so your argument makes little sense.
                145 is still WW and 151 is still JMW, it may not be at the limit, but by the rules it's still within the range.

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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  if you feel that makes manny better or floyd worse fine.

                  If floyd wins, i think canelo will have a loss same way I think cotto has a loss. if you feel better by saying canelo is undefeated because floyd said that about cotto to hype up his fight fine with me. my opinion isn't based on what is said. in the end, floyd has won titles at 147 and 154, manny at 145 and 151. nothing you post changes that.

                  reports say canelo asked for 152 when he thought he wouldn't get the fight so your argument makes little sense.
                  Reports also say Cotto asked for 145 when ... GTFO

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                  • Evol
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    see posts 263, 265, and 267. you came in late and missed those.


                    because I gave pac shiiit for winning the title at a cw. why? because I don't like it when the champiuon has to defend his title at less than the max weight of the division. since floyd hasn't won the title at a cw -I'm not giving him the same shiiiit I gave Pac.

                    Do you understand?
                    so ur not giving floyd any heat YET because the fight hasnt happen yet or floyd didnt win yet? ur just gonna ignored the whole fact that floyd asked and wants a CW just because the fight didnt happen yet or he didnt win yet? thanks for just proving to me that u're a true fllom0ez. funny that u're trying to justify this by saying floyd didnt win yet when u know damm well my whole point of this is floyd asking and wanting a CW when he simply said he'll fight his opponents at their best. just stop it already dunn.

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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Evol
                      so ur not giving floyd any heat YET because the fight hasnt happen yet or floyd didnt win yet? ur just gonna ignored the whole fact that floyd asked and wants a CW just because the fight didnt happen yet or he didnt win yet? thanks for just proving to me that u're a true fllom0ez. funny that u're trying to justify this by saying floyd didnt win yet when u know damm well my whole point of this is floyd asking and wanting a CW when he simply said he'll fight his opponents at their best. just stop it already dunn.
                      I edited post before your response hit. go check it.

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