Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

[VoodooChild]

I dont know if they think that , I think they are a lot smaller fighter and just want to hedge their bet a little its the professional thing to do from their perspective as they owe Canelo nothing , and Canelo called Floyd out but I dont see you bagging Canelo for picking on small fighters , but thats just the Floyd hater syndrome where no other fighter is put to the same standard Floyd is .

Ahhh so just like when Manny fought Cotto at 145 and Tony at 150, he was the smaller fighter who wanted to hedge his bet a little, he owed Cotto and Tony nothing and was giving them a huge pay day correct??

Also Canelo is calling out another JMW champ, you know someone who fights in his weight division.

[Reloaded]

You should change your username to Steve Forbes. "2 pounds"

You should present something to dispute the facts , kiddy stuff just shows your mentality .

[junior gong]

You should present something to dispute the facts , kiddy stuff just shows your mentality .

Well lets look at that, shall we? Your ridiculous garbage about how 2lbs makes more difference at 47 than 54 and the guff about size etc. has already been debated,discounted, and in your case, downright laughed out. Its obvious to just about everybody here that you havent got a clue about the subject, are just a fan of Floyd and are just here to act like a complete jerk by just trying to make the same argument repeatedly after its been pissed and shat all over.

You talk about 'kiddy stuff' yet what you are doing here is the online equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and shouting the same thing at the top of your voice over and over again. My kids grew out of that when they were about three and too young to know better. Whats your excuse?

[flipbjefrox]

huh , got nothing to do with Floyd but we can debate his CW if you like , topic was about Manny refusing to fight Cotto without a CW when calling him out after beating him with a CW , you understand it wasnt Cotto calling Manny out but the other way around right , and when Cotto said ok but no CW Manny went and fought a LW , thats a blatant duck , it would be like Floyd beating Canelo at 152 , then Floyd calls Canelo out for a rematch and Canelo says no problems but no CW and Floyd goes and fights Abril , and then robs him only to get face planted in a rematch lol , Manny is a joke !

Seems this forum of kids has a very hard time with looking at all the circumstances , like Ive always said in here its just a number and hype you feed off , most of the intricate stuff goes over your head like an AK47 .

The boxing ignorance by the Pac ******s is just insanity .

u mad?

[flipbjefrox]

I have no idea , maybe maybe not , I think its a very risky fight for Floyd because of the weight difference and Floyd getting to the tail of his career , quite a few tangibles in this , yep they both champs and Floyd is a WW that beat a former LW and JWW for the title , not quite the same as fighting a full blown JMW , thats why they want a few pounds .

But I will tell you this , if Floyd beats Canelo and then through public demand and its the biggest money fight forcing Floyd to call him out for a rematch and Canelo says sure but no CW , you will see me calling Floyd a ducker and that the 152 must have played a major role in the first win

The circumstances mean everything , its not the CW par-say .

So Floyd is weight draining Canelo coulda said that in 1 sentence

[flipbjefrox]

I dont know if they think that , I think they are a lot smaller fighter and just want to hedge their bet a little its the professional thing to do from their perspective as they owe Canelo nothing , and Canelo called Floyd out but I dont see you bagging Canelo for picking on small fighters , but thats just the Floyd hater syndrome where no other fighter is put to the same standard Floyd is .

I think we all know Manny would never take this fight if his life depended on it so I do give Floyd a lot of credit for taking it when he didnt have too , he could have stayed in his own 147 division and totally own it , but he didnt he took the fight you all said he would duck .

Two 154 lb champions fighting at a catch weight. Nice try with the smaller guy

[Jam Jars]

The first CW was bad, the request for the second was one of the biggest ***** moves in boxing history. He already beat the crap out of the guy in a one sided fight and then wanted to drain him again after he had got comfortable at the weight. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and i'm as ****** as Pacquiao.

[Reloaded]

Ahhh so just like when Manny fought Cotto at 145 and Tony at 150, he was the smaller fighter who wanted to hedge his bet a little, he owed Cotto and Tony nothing and was giving them a huge pay day correct??

Also Canelo is calling out another JMW champ, you know someone who fights in his weight division.

You could say that , the big problem was when you put all the elements together , starting at side stepping Foreman saying he was too big , digging up Margo who was of a beating and a 2 yr forced cheaters layoff , he had no fight and could not get a US license until Arum pulled some strings , then you have Margo using diuretics to make weight , a 26ft ring , illegal gloves , a weight of 150 for a 154 title ,,,, add it all up kid the Margo fight was the biggest BS paper title scam Ive ever seen at top level !

Cotto was legit negotiating a CW on paper in the beginning , for me Cotto didnt look right in the fight and the aftermath bolstered the idea the orignal CW effected Cotto , with Manny calling him out ( big significance ) and then running to a LW because Cotto would not abuse his body like that again his words with another CW , and Cotto the moment he was not tied to Arum saying the 145 CW killed him to make and that he was pressured into taking the 145 fight being promoted by the same guy as Manny and Manny being the lead star , next step Cotto leaves Arum , and here we are .

Work it all out its not really that hard if you look at all that happened leading up to , during , and after the fact , as they say hindsight is 20/20 vision .

[thuggery]

The first CW was bad, the request for the second was one of the biggest ***** moves in boxing history. He already beat the crap out of the guy in a one sided fight and then wanted to drain him again after he had got comfortable at the weight. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and i'm as ****** as Pacquiao.

That's why Cotto demanded to fight Margarito at 150 in the rematch? The same weight Manny wanted to fight Cotto at in their rematch? So you're telling me Cotto wanted to voluntarily drain himself?

[Reloaded]

Two 154 lb champions fighting at a catch weight. Nice try with the smaller guy

Floyd is WW that weighed in at 146 last fight , get off the fence with your squawking kiddo and learn some of the dynamics of this sport , it has more to it than the media hype you feed off .