Who's more dangerous? Bradley or Canelo?

[-Lowkey-]

Hey no problem if you think that way. Canelo will give Floyd problems...

Can you read? or are you wilfully ignorant?

Im sorry to be harsh but I have mentioned in virtually every post I have made on this thread that I don't consider either Alvarez or Bradley to have a realistic chance.

[jrosales13]

Hattons resume at 140 was a lot better than Bradley's and to me that shouldn't even be up for debate. Hatton had a buzz around him at the time people where calling for Hatton vs Floyd no one is calling for Pac vs Bradley that's a weak comparison on your part imo.

I also don't understand why you are bringing up the Mosley vs Pac fight he didn't come to win he didn't want to engage he went there with the soul purpose of survival. It is next to impossible to look good against a guy with that mindset.

However shot to **** Mosley as you described him did wobble Floyd which leads me to think Alvarez at least has a slight punchers chance all be it tiny somthing Bradley doesn't have.

Now here's an idea why don't boxing fans stop splitting hairs and voice feelings of rejection towards these two crappy fights then maybe we could get to see the fight that people actually want.

Just because Hatton has one stand out win at 140 while Bradley has none. Doesn't mean that his resume is "a lot" better than Bradley resume. Hatton has the better single win against an aging, inactive, injury prone Kostya. Yes, but overall resume they're not that far part at 140. Hatton had a buzz cuz' of his fan base which Bradley doesn't posses. Doesn't mean that's it's not just as intriguing of a fight.

My reasoning to bring up a shot to pieces Mosley is because it showed what movement can make Pac look. Even frustrate him. The 2nd half of the Cotto fight showed that as well. Where Pac just doesn't like movement. Bradley not only can move but can counter punch better than what Mosley or even Cotto can. Bradley IMO is a more versatile and intelligent fighter than Mosley and Cotto are. But, I agree that Bradley counter punching nor IQ is nowhere near the level of a JMM.

Yes a shot to pieces Mosley wobbled Floyd. The problem is that Canelo doesn't hit as hard a shot to pieces Mosley does. Nor does Canelo hits as hard as Ortiz does. Who's power didn't seem to bother Floyd at all.

You have a great idea. And, I would agree with that idea. But, the problem here is that Pac-Bradley is not a shitty fight at all. It's actually a good fight. Now Floyd-Canelo is a shitty fight. Once again for the first time since 09' Pac out did Floyd in picking the tougher opponent.

[jai mari078]

Bradley is overrated!

[jrosales13]

Now while I agree with damn near everything in this post, I believe that Bradley is a better fight for Manny than Hatton was for Floyd. Bradley looked superb in his 1st fight at 147. Not that Abregu is any Collazo, however he dominated that guy. Hatton got a gift IMO. It clearly showed he didn't belong.

And, that's why they cancel each other out IMO. Who knows how Bradley would look against a Collazo level opponent or how Hatton would look against an Abregu level opponent.

So its a wash, which makes both quite similar IMO.

[Junior M Weight]

Just because Hatton has one stand out win at 140 while Bradley has none. Doesn't mean that his resume is "a lot" better than Bradley resume. Hatton has the better single win against an aging, inactive, injury prone Kostya. Yes, but overall resume they're not that far part at 140. Hatton had a buzz cuz' of his fan base which Bradley doesn't posses. Doesn't mean that's it's not just as intriguing of a fight.

My reasoning to bring up a shot to pieces Mosley is because it showed what movement can make Pac look. Even frustrate him. The 2nd half of the Cotto fight showed that as well. Where Pac just doesn't like movement. Bradley not only can move but can counter punch better than what Mosley or even Cotto can. Bradley IMO is a more versatile and intelligent fighter than Mosley and Cotto are. But, I agree that Bradley counter punching nor IQ is nowhere near the level of a JMM.

Yes a shot to pieces Mosley wobbled Floyd. The problem is that Canelo doesn't hit as hard a shot to pieces Mosley does. Nor does Canelo hits as hard as Ortiz does. Who's power didn't seem to bother Floyd at all.

You have a great idea. And, I would agree with that idea. But, the problem here is that Pac-Bradley is not a shitty fight at all. It's actually a good fight. Now Floyd-Canelo is a shitty fight. Once again for the first time since 09' Pac out did Floyd in picking the tougher opponent.

Lol you think old ww mosley hits harder than big jmw Cinnamon?

Lol

[jrosales13]

Lol you think old ww mosley hits harder than big jmw Cinnamon?

Lol

Power is the last thing that goes, ask Michael Moorer.

You can be big all you want, doesn't mean that you got power though.

Yes I do believe that not only Mosley hits harder than Canelo but so does Victor Ortiz. Because, they have proved their power against good solid comp. Canelo has yet to do that.

[PAC-BOY]

Power is the last thing that goes, ask Michael Moorer.

You can be big all you want, doesn't mean that you got power though.

Yes I do believe that not only Mosley hits harder than Canelo but so does Victor Ortiz. Because, they have proved their power against good solid comp. Canelo has yet to do that.

hes made some step ups. Baldomir KOd...Gomez,KOd...Cintron,KOd. They maynot be high up on the food chain but gor steping up theyre solid guys. And the good thing about it is, he didnt go the distance..he got them outa there, KOd them.

[Junior M Weight]

Power is the last thing that goes, ask Michael Moorer.

You can be big all you want, doesn't mean that you got power though.

Yes I do believe that not only Mosley hits harder than Canelo but so does Victor Ortiz. Because, they have proved their power against good solid comp. Canelo has yet to do that.

I don't need to ask moorer.

Mosley definitely does not hit harder than Canelo. I'm sorry but a huge Ryan Rhodes couldn't take his power. You're underestimating his power.

Ortiz isn't stronger or a harder puncher either. Just look at the mere frame size.

[jrosales13]

hes made some step ups. Baldomir KOd...Gomez,KOd...Cintron,KOd. They maynot be high up on the food chain but gor steping up theyre solid guys. And the good thing about it is, he didnt go the distance..he got them outa there, KOd them.

The Gomez KO'd didn't show power. The only fight he showed power was against a shot to pieces Baldomir. Smaller fighters like Hatton didn't show any power, nor against Ndou. But, to be fair to Canelo who KO's Ndou right? But, then again he was much bigger than Ndou and fresher.

At the end of the day he hasn't shown power against the level of comp that Mosley or Ortiz had prior to fighting Floyd.

[jrosales13]

I don't need to ask moorer.

Mosley definitely does not hit harder than Canelo. I'm sorry but a huge Ryan Rhodes couldn't take his power. You're underestimating his power.

Ortiz isn't stronger or a harder puncher either. Just look at the mere frame size.

You don't need frame to be a power puncher though. And, power doesn't mean strength or vice versa.

A smaller Ndou took his power. He couldn't get a smaller Hatton out of there. And, these guys are not World beater mind you.