If Floyd fights Canelo=another young hungrey lion

[Walt Liquor]

LOL .. what fighter can you name that has fought the #1 or #2 fighter in every division that they have competed in consistently?

Mayweather doesn't make the rankings. The best are those who have won their fights. They have fought and beaten whoever stood in their way to be at the top.

You may not like who the best is, but your opinions and hurt feelings do nothing but show your vagina.




You are a fcuking idiot. You come to this site asking ****** **** like "Who cares what he has done". You get ZERO RESPECT.

Boxing is ALL about what one has done in the ring. There is nothing else. Its half asssed fans like you that attempt to make boxing about everything BUT what happens in the ring. If it were all about the quantity and not the quality then a man who fought 40 bums before he ever stepped up to world class competition could be considered a HOF and a ATG.

This isn't a team sport. A fighter has to depend on himself and only his performances determine how good or great he and his career is. Good lord your a dumb asss.



No you couldn't. It really comes down to what a man considers "good". You and people like you have lowered the bar to a point where club fighters are considered ATG's in your mind.



Dude, I know more about boxing than your mother ever knew about your father. Rankings in terms of gauging the value of a win is incredibly important. you're just too ****** and full of hubris to understand that.



LOL .. do I? You write about comments. I write about boxing. There's a huge difference. You type with ego. I type with understanding. Show me the contradictions.



What makes you think otherwise? Froch was no phenom. Froch was just a guy willing to take chances. See ... that's the problem with you. you put people on pedestals and they haven't even done ****. Why say that Canelo cannot do something that Froch did? Froch hasn't really done anything but have the balls to fight in a tournament and be shown that against the likes of Ward is notches below!



I'm not even endorsing Canelo. That's one of those "contradictions" that only YOU see but hasn't really happened. That's what happens with individuals with ADHD: You see and hear what you want because otherwise you have nothing of value to say!

Stay focused!



You go off into these tangents and get lost in your liquor fueled rants.

Do YOU even know WTF you're talking about?

You keep making these statements ... but you NEVER back them up with anything substantial. You're like one of those loud guys in the crowd who fancies himself smart and informed until he's invited to get on stage to air his concerns.

And its not just you either.

Several idiots on this site do the same exact things that you do so that fighters that they like can be seen as having done something special ... when they haven't done ANYTHING special.

To be special, you have to beat men who are THEE BEST. Performing well in fights against guys who never really did **** proves little and does NOT raise the bar ... no matter how well you did against them.

If Pacquiao would have stepped up and fought the best at LW, jr WW, WW and jrMW .. I would be the loudest on this site praising him. He didn't. So I don't buy into the bull****. That simple.

Idiots here have called Cotto a ATG! It wouldn't surprise me if you were among them. Saddest part is that another loser has said the same about Barrera when Barrera is no better than Cotto. In some ways, he's actually less accomplished.

But because he's Mexican and fought in drawn out slug fests, he's somehow great despite his best win coming over a man who was equally as unimpressive career wise.

Put the bottle down and get your act together.

wow, arguing against yourself again.

you don't post back for so long, you have no clue what's going on in the posts.

froch was willing to take chances, correct. has canelo shown to be that guy? NO!

End of your entire bullshi t rants.

I've pointed out your contradictions countless times, it's old and you're a winbag that changes his story every time you post. like I'm going to waste time on that....

this is about your comparing canelo to froch. nothing else. you stay focused.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

hungry?

canelo is a freaking celebrity and a huge mexican sports star.

Canelo is too green, too young, too untested for floyd.

Whose the best fighter Canelo has faced? ryan rhodes? kermit cintron?

beating canleo does nothing for floyd's resume.

It keeps Floyd active and against a Champion and star in Mexico where boxing seems to loom the largest these days. If anything it gets him closer to the Mexican fans and keeps him sharp and in line for his next big money fight.

lol shut up larry. You don't go from fighting the alfonzo gomez & kermit cintron's of the world to floyd mayweather.

Maybe pacquiao should one up floyd and fight Jose Benavidez Jr next.

Pacquiao's last three opponents ============>

Antonio Margarito - his first big fight back after a long layoff already demolished by an aging lion Mosley

Shane Mosley - too little too late this Mosley was old and gun shy way out of his realm

Juan Manuel Marquez - well styles make fights and Marquez gave him trouble but when Floyd fought Marquez everyone laughed right?

My point is in boxing if the fight you really want to make is not available or just cannot happen for what ever reasons you need to stay busy right?

Larry, you know I'm a Mayweather fan as much as anyone here, but Alvarez is not a good fight. Economically it makes sense, but that's it.

I'd consider the Ortiz win miles ahead of Canelo. At least Victor had beaten Berto.

Cotto is the man Floyd needs to fight.

Cotto is not or does not want too see Floyd at this stage of Cotto's career. back in 2008 I would have loved to see the body punching Cotto go head to head with Floyd. At this point I just don't think it makes sense for Cotto. It may make him $$$ but he can get money fighting Chavez Jr as mentioned in other posts. For Floyd it would be a good idea to punish Cotto much the same way he did Mosley for 12 rounds. As for Floyd fighting Ortiz I would not mind seeing a rematch and since Ortiz is suddenly availalbe why the f - - k not?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Larry, i take it back, you've actually trolled people into buying into this.

[bojangles1987]

Larry, i take it back, you've actually trolled people into buying into this.

Dat size tho. Young hungry lion.

[New England]

LOL .. what fighter can you name that has fought the #1 or #2 fighter in every division that they have competed in consistently?

Mayweather doesn't make the rankings. The best are those who have won their fights. They have fought and beaten whoever stood in their way to be at the top.

You may not like who the best is, but your opinions and hurt feelings do nothing but show your vagina.




You are a fcuking idiot. You come to this site asking ****** **** like "Who cares what he has done". You get ZERO RESPECT.

Boxing is ALL about what one has done in the ring. There is nothing else. Its half asssed fans like you that attempt to make boxing about everything BUT what happens in the ring. If it were all about the quantity and not the quality then a man who fought 40 bums before he ever stepped up to world class competition could be considered a HOF and a ATG.

This isn't a team sport. A fighter has to depend on himself and only his performances determine how good or great he and his career is. Good lord your a dumb asss.



No you couldn't. It really comes down to what a man considers "good". You and people like you have lowered the bar to a point where club fighters are considered ATG's in your mind.



Dude, I know more about boxing than your mother ever knew about your father. Rankings in terms of gauging the value of a win is incredibly important. you're just too ****** and full of hubris to understand that.



LOL .. do I? You write about comments. I write about boxing. There's a huge difference. You type with ego. I type with understanding. Show me the contradictions.



What makes you think otherwise? Froch was no phenom. Froch was just a guy willing to take chances. See ... that's the problem with you. you put people on pedestals and they haven't even done ****. Why say that Canelo cannot do something that Froch did? Froch hasn't really done anything but have the balls to fight in a tournament and be shown that against the likes of Ward is notches below!



I'm not even endorsing Canelo. That's one of those "contradictions" that only YOU see but hasn't really happened. That's what happens with individuals with ADHD: You see and hear what you want because otherwise you have nothing of value to say!

Stay focused!



You go off into these tangents and get lost in your liquor fueled rants.

Do YOU even know WTF you're talking about?

You keep making these statements ... but you NEVER back them up with anything substantial. You're like one of those loud guys in the crowd who fancies himself smart and informed until he's invited to get on stage to air his concerns.

And its not just you either.

Several idiots on this site do the same exact things that you do so that fighters that they like can be seen as having done something special ... when they haven't done ANYTHING special.

To be special, you have to beat men who are THEE BEST. Performing well in fights against guys who never really did **** proves little and does NOT raise the bar ... no matter how well you did against them.

If Pacquiao would have stepped up and fought the best at LW, jr WW, WW and jrMW .. I would be the loudest on this site praising him. He didn't. So I don't buy into the bull****. That simple.

Idiots here have called Cotto a ATG! It wouldn't surprise me if you were among them. Saddest part is that another loser has said the same about Barrera when Barrera is no better than Cotto. In some ways, he's actually less accomplished.

But because he's Mexican and fought in drawn out slug fests, he's somehow great despite his best win coming over a man who was equally as unimpressive career wise.

Put the bottle down and get your act together.

you started out making some fair points
no fighter fights the best opposition out there with any consistency, one after the other.

they never have and they never will. the fights get too hard to make
the fighters wear down
the businesses end up losing their assets (the fighters,) prematurely, and arent able to maximize the profits from them by extending their careers by incurring less risk


then you started acting like a child
and you finshed it up acting like a fool


marco antonio barrera > miguel cotto

that's going to be something you're going to have to learn to deal with, again, at the risk of sounding like a complete fool

[bojangles1987]

you started out making some fair points
no fighter fights the best opposition out there with any consistency, one after the other.

they never have and they never will. the fights get too hard to make
the fighters wear down
the businesses end up losing their assets (the fighters,) prematurely, and arent able to maximize the profits from them by extending their careers by incurring less risk


then you started acting like a child
and you finshed it up acting like a fool


marco antonio barrera > miguel cotto

that's going to be something you're going to have to learn to deal with, again, at the risk of sounding like a complete fool

Don't waste time with Brother Jay. He has an agenda, he lies to support that agenda, and he will troll you over and over until you wonder why you bothered.

[New England]

Don't waste time with Brother Jay. He has an agenda, he lies to support that agenda, and he will troll you over and over until you wonder why you bothered.

i'd love to see a sticky with a "known troll wall of shame"


everybody would be going about outing trolls

it would be like the Mccarthy era

or the witch trials at salem

[KnockoutKings]

Young, yes, hungry, yes but much like Ortiz, he's not ready for Floyd.

[Walt Liquor]

you started out making some fair points
no fighter fights the best opposition out there with any consistency, one after the other.

they never have and they never will. the fights get too hard to make
the fighters wear down
the businesses end up losing their assets (the fighters,) prematurely, and arent able to maximize the profits from them by extending their careers by incurring less risk


then you started acting like a child
and you finshed it up acting like a fool


marco antonio barrera > miguel cotto

that's going to be something you're going to have to learn to deal with, again, at the risk of sounding like a complete fool

no he didn't. not at all

it had nothing to do with my post to him. that clown just says what he wants, regardless of what the topic at hand is.

here's how that exact topic went down.

Pascal hadn't done anything at that point. He hadn't won a world championship yet. You only know his name because of what he did with Dawson and Hopkins.

Canelo is the WBC champion albeit a vacant title.

It becomes so clear that some fans are enamored with "names" and not accomplishments.

King and Arum COUNT on this. Its how they sell **** to the masses.

And suckers fall for the dumb **** EVERY time.

lol, and floyd doesn't either? you're the sucker around here.

LOL .. what fighter can you name that has fought the #1 or #2 fighter in every division that they have competed in consistently?

Mayweather doesn't make the rankings. The best are those who have won their fights. They have fought and beaten whoever stood in their way to be at the top.

You may not like who the best is, but your opinions and hurt feelings do nothing but show your vagina.

talk about hurt feelings, he thought I was talking about floyd's competition when I was clearly saying that floyd counts on fans who are "enamored with names" to sell fights then he starts ranting...

what a clown. his whole posting style is to compelty disregard the topic at hand and go on a tangent that makes no sense.

he says the only thing that matter is what happens in the ring in one post, and the next post is that the only thing that matter in judging a fighters competition is if they are ranked in the top 3 at the time. Which is it? what happen in the ring or a bullshi t ranking by an alphabet soup organization?

he exclusively posts in threads about floyd, pac, their times, or cotto. but he knows everything and everyone in boxing

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

you started out making some fair points
no fighter fights the best opposition out there with any consistency, one after the other.

they never have and they never will. the fights get too hard to make
the fighters wear down
the businesses end up losing their assets (the fighters,) prematurely, and arent able to maximize the profits from them by extending their careers by incurring less risk


then you started acting like a child
and you finshed it up acting like a fool


marco antonio barrera > miguel cotto

that's going to be something you're going to have to learn to deal with, again, at the risk of sounding like a complete fool

I disagree with you look at Cotto's list of opponents from 2006 to present day

Paul Malignaggi - 21-0 tough kid from Brooklyn very good skills and difficut to deal with

Carlos Quintana - 23-0 1st fight at 147lbs & the first to beat Paul Williams

Oktay Urkal - 38-3 tough opponent &good measuring stick for Cotto @ 147lbs

Zab Judah - 34-4 Former undisputed WW champion at that time still on top

Shane Mosley - 44-4 - Former P4P Champion and future hall fame still very good at the time of the bout

Alfonso Gomez - 18-3-2 - tough fighter (everyone needs a tune up bout right?)

Antonio Margarito - 36-5 - At the time the most feared man in boxing a beast

Michael Jennings - 34-1 - A tune up bout after Cotto loss to Margarito ( he needed a break after the last few fights)

Joshua Clottey - 35-2 - Also one of the most feared fighters @ the time and a very good fighter

Manny Pacquiao - 49-3-2 - P4P Champion

Yuri Foreman - 28-0 - undefeated Junior Middle Weight Champion and a very skilled fighter

Ricardo Mayorga - 29-7 - Good tune up for the rematch with Margarito. mayorga is a agressive fighter

Antonio Margarito - 38-7 - Ghost that loomed large in Miguels mind.....LEFTY