Has there ever been an undefeated 7 time champ in 5 divisions

[PAC-BOY]

simple question has there ever been an undefeated

7 time champion(really 8 time champ he kicked shanes ass who was wba champ)

5 divisions

3 time-lineal champ

plus he held the IBO and IBA at 147

has there ever been a 8 time world champ in 8 different divisions

[junior gong]

Wow. Another Floyd rimming spectactular from amazing Larry! Who woulda thought?:wank:

[daggum]

Lots of Floyd hate in this thread. Give the man the probs he deserves. Floyd never been knocked down (except the broken hand and Zab threading on his shoe).

And what's all that about going to war? I mean, if he can win fights without being hit in the head in boxing, that is truly magnificent, so go away with that he has to have wars on his resume.

I do agree though, that he has been cherrypicking, but the biggest ducking has been of Cotto, Pac and Margarito - But that cant overshadow his accomplishments completely. You gotta give him some respect, whereas some people give him way too much respect, I'd say he definitely deserves to be ranked as the top 2 greatest of this era and easily top50 ever. But he needs Pac before it's a fact that he's on the slide to really have a chance to bust open top10.

either has sven ottke.

i agree. same with ottke. he never fought hopkins, jones, or calzaghe but that can't overshadow his 21 title defense domination of the supermiddle division.

i agree again. may and ottke are the top 2 of this era and top 50 of all time at least.

[Brother Jay]

Floyd did just say "No 50-50" so he isn't without blame either. Unless you are going to defend Floyd flip flopping on the purse split now.

GTFOH with that nonsense.

Blame?

Didn't Pacquiao say that he would take a pay cut? So words don't mean anything, to you and fans like you?

When a man says "I will take the USADA tests" and then comes up with 15 reasons not to he is NOT a man of his word.

Hey Bojangles?

Tell me when Floyd last broke his word and what it was concerning.

Cut that "Let's share the blame" **** out. Unless Floyd Mayweather relents to everything that Pacquiao, Roach and Arum asks, you see him as "uncooperative".

That's pure bull**** and you know it.

I'm not trying to get Floyd elected into sainthood or anything, but when a man does what he says he will do and delivers, give him the credit he deserves.

Pacquiao has backtracked on the testing, the money, the date and the venue.

Have the character to lay the blame where it belongs.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

GTFOH with that nonsense.

Blame?

Didn't Pacquiao say that he would take a pay cut? So words don't mean anything, to you and fans like you?

Saying something in passing/jest to the media is not the same as agreeing to something in actual negotiations then backing out.

When a man says "I will take the USADA tests" and then comes up with 15 reasons not to he is NOT a man of his word.

How about floyd act like an athlete and just play? Name me another sport another athlete that dictate what test his opponent should take? No athlete should dictate what test his opponent should take.

Especially an athlete like pac who has zero evidence of steroid use and who floyd belittled as overrated, one dimensional, too small, and my favorite easy work.

Yet floyd thinks he's roiding?

GTFO u H o E.

Hey Bojangles?

Tell me when Floyd last broke his word and what it was concerning.

LMFAAOOO!!!! You gots to be kidding me? Here's a start floyd contradiction thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332771

Cut that "Let's share the blame" **** out. Unless Floyd Mayweather relents to everything that Pacquiao, Roach and Arum asks, you see him as "uncooperative".

That's pure bull**** and you know it.

I'm not trying to get Floyd elected into sainthood or anything, but when a man does what he says he will do and delivers, give him the credit he deserves.

Pacquiao has backtracked on the testing, the money, the date and the venue.

Have the character to lay the blame where it belongs.

Lets see:

-Pac has conceded the testing
-Pac has conceded to fighting in vegas because floyd doesnt want to fight anywhere else.
-Pac has conceded to fighting in late may

First it was the unprecedented drug testing request. After that finally gets settled, floyd comes right back with a new road block, not wanting to give 50-50 in what will likely be the richest fight in boxing. Talk about breathtaking ****ing greed.

You want to talk character yet you are a floyd fan. The same floyd who disrespects past and current fighters. The same floyd who has a litany of convictions. The same floyd who cant pay his bills. The same floyd who cant pay his taxes. The same floyd with a wanksta image.

Character? GTFO once again.

[Brother Jay]

Saying something in passing/jest to the media is not the same as agreeing to something in actual negotiations then backing out.

I did not say that it was the same thing. However the statement was more for the fans than it was for Floyd Mayweather. Does this mean that its okay to deliberately mislead one's fans?

How about floyd act like an athlete and just play? Name me another sport another athlete that dictate what test his opponent should take? No athlete should dictate what test his opponent should take.

I don't need to name another sport. It has been done in boxing before several times. this is nothing new.

How about this though: name another sport where a player could stipulate his opponent's weight to create an advantage for himself? Imagine the Patriots stipulating that the Giants defensive line had to come in 5-10lbs lighter for the superbowl. No boxer in history has made it a habit of demanding catchweights and then pretending to be some sort of conqueror.

Its like David starving Goliath before their match and then celebrating his win over him as if Goliath hadn't been already beaten up by cutting weight. Its pathetic.

Especially an athlete like pac who has zero evidence of steroid use and who floyd belittled as overrated, one dimensional, too small, and my favorite easy work.

Floyd, like Ali, insults all of his opponents. And quite frankly, I may have been inclined to agree with you when that all started. However after Pacquiao's many refusals to take tests created to ensure fairness, and then demanding that Mosley take PED tests up until Mosley agreed if Manny would also take them, which was the point in which Pacquiao rescinded the demand, I feel like there may be something to the allegations. Its a strong feeling, and many feel that way.

If Manny had taken the tests, all this talk of PED use would have been over and done with years ago.

Instead, Manny has refused to take them and Roach has been tied to PED scandals before, despite claiming he has no idea what they are.

Yet floyd thinks he's roiding?

Floyd is not alone. Many Pacquiao fans now have their doubts as well. Its one thing to not appreciate being accused of something you haven't done. Its another to let it hold up the biggest fight of your career to the point where you let 4 years go by because of it.

In fact, its gotten so bad that Manny has even been demoted on several lists because his lackluster performances along with his unwillingness to step up to the big stage. Let's face it ... Marquez is the highest ranked fighter that Manny has faced in literally 4 years. And everytime that Pacquiao faces a top 3 fighter the results are always the same ... he either loses or he wins in controversy.

That alone tells a story.

GTFO u H o E.

Uhhh ... no.

LMFAAOOO!!!! You gots to be kidding me? Here's a start floyd contradiction thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=332771

I'm not going to address another post. I'm not even interested in your link. Make your case here, son ... or sit your asss down and be quiet.

Lets see:

-Pac has conceded the testing
-Pac has conceded to fighting in vegas because floyd doesnt want to fight anywhere else.
-Pac has conceded to fighting in late may

The contradiction is YOU, son! You just said up above:

"Saying something in passing/jest to the media is not the same as agreeing to something in actual negotiations then backing out."

Which is it? Make up your mind. Are you confused?

First it was the unprecedented drug testing request.

It wasn't "first" on Mayweather's part. It was his only demand. Its the demand that Pacquiao until this day hasn't lived up to. What Pacquiao "says" and what Pacquiao is willing to sign are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

After that finally gets settled, floyd comes right back with a new road block, not wanting to give 50-50 in what will likely be the richest fight in boxing. Talk about breathtaking ****ing greed.

That never got settled! Pacquiao agreed to take EVERY test on video. Then when called to the signing table, it became a matter of USADA being bias, testing in the Philippines, and whether or not he was willing to give blood, cut off dates .... the dude is really a politician! Double talking, backtracking coward!

Manny Pacquiao stated that he wanted to show his fans that he wants to make this fight .. and he is willing to take a pay cut to prove to his fans that he wants to make this fight.

So now that Manny Pacquiao is NOT willing to take the pay cut that he said he would take, is it clear now that manny Pacquiao does NOT want to make this fight? After all ... Pacquiao is all about his fans .... RIGHT????

You want to talk character yet you are a floyd fan. The same floyd who disrespects past and current fighters. The same floyd who has a litany of convictions. The same floyd who cant pay his bills. The same floyd who cant pay his taxes. The same floyd with a wanksta image.

The same Floyd who is the second highest paid athlete. The same Floyd who is the greatest boxer of this era. The same Floyd who draws comparisons to the great Sweet Pea. The same Floyd who Bob Arum himself said was greater than Ali. The same Floyd who pays for former greats funerals when their families cannot. The same Floyd who does charity work that doesn't get publicity.

Character? GTFO once again.

Let's talk character.

Pacquiao has a child out of wedlock with a Filipino **********. Pacquiao is borrowing against future purses to gamble, make frivolous purchases like expensive cars which he doesn't know how to drive, and apparently to wine and dine filipino **********s.

VisionQwest anyone? Not only did this firm help Pacquiao discover who is robbing him blind because he has a child's understanding of his own finances, but they are now suing him because he skipped the bill.

Is that the "character" you are speaking about?

Floyd is no saint. Nor has anyone ever accused him of being one.

But Manny Pacquiao is a dirty dog who cheats on his wife, sleeps with **********s, doesn't pay his bills and has avoided a drug test long enough for the stigma to be attached to his career.

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, kid's table. You're definitely not ready for me.

[Poet682006]

I was under the impression that the admins were going to sequester the *******s and *****s in one thread (similar to boarding up the psychotic nephew in the attic) so the rest of us could be spared the never ending BS. Whatever happend to that idea? :dunno9:


Poet

[nutz_n_ya_face]

larry represents the worst kind of fan. he buys into all the cherry picking trinket belt nonsense. here is the difference between greats like ali and leonard and mayweather. when you mention ali or leanard you think of their fights with liston, frazier, foreman, benitez, hearns, duran or hagler. when you think of floyd you think of undefeated, 7 time champ, 5 divisions, millions of ppvs but where's the substance...........

whoa! that's a stab to the heart if your a floyd fan but it's true.

talent wise floyd > anyone below 160 in this era, just too bad he seem to cant find his balls.