Has there ever been an undefeated 7 time champ in 5 divisions

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  • The_Sandman
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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum
    larry represents the worst kind of fan. he buys into all the cherry picking trinket belt nonsense. here is the difference between greats like ali and leonard and mayweather. when you mention ali or leanard you think of their fights with liston, frazier, foreman, benitez, hearns, duran or hagler. when you think of floyd you think of undefeated, 7 time champ, 5 divisions, millions of ppvs but where's the substance...........
    The reason for that is because Frazier, Liston, Duran, Hearns were competition for Ali and Leonard. They were wars. And to be honest, I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone giving Floyd a hard time. Maybe Sergio at 154.

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    • Poet682006
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      #32
      Originally posted by Larryx2011
      simple question has there ever been an undefeated

      7 time champion(really 8 time champ he kicked shanes ass who was wba champ)

      5 divisions

      3 time-lineal champ

      plus he held the IBO and IBA at 147
      Considering there are only 8 real weight classes no there hasn't been.

      Now a simple question: Name me a fighter who held the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight titles SIMULTANEOUSLY (Hint: His name is Henry not Floyd).

      When your idol is the legit champ (not holding a worthless alphabelt) in 3 legitimate divisions at the same time you can get back to me.

      Poet

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      • Ragnar Lothbrok
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        #33
        Originally posted by The_Sandman
        The reason for that is because Frazier, Liston, Duran, Hearns were competition for Ali and Leonard. They were wars. And to be honest, I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone giving Floyd a hard time. Maybe Sergio at 154.
        Its a shame that Floyd the fighter himself doesnt have the same confidence level as his fans. Otherwise, floyd would have already stepped in the ring with the man he called overrated, one dimensional, too small, and my favorite easy work. But after labeling pac all of that, floyd think's he using steroids.


        There's a reason why floyd doesnt have a single win against prime hall of fame fighters. There's a reason why floyd's signature win is diego corrales. Now compare that win vs the best wins of other ATGs. Floyd's pale in comparison.

        How many great fights has floyd given you? Now compare that to pac and other all time greats.

        How many fights did floyd leave off the table? Just at 147 alone, its staggering. After beating career 140 pounder hatton, floyd retired abruptly when the welterweight division was the hottest and deepest in all of boxing.

        Prime cotto, prime margarito, prime paul williams, prime pacquiao, younger shane, a host of other credible pros like collazo, clottey, cintron, berto and the likes were left fighting each other while floyd waited to pick up the pieces like a shameless vulture.

        While ATGs were waging wars against each other like leonard duran, hagler hearns, robinson lamotta, pep saddler, oscar tito, tyson holyfield, pac with morales, marquez, and barrera......

        what is floyd doing?

        waging wars vs 20 plus loss emmanuel augustus?


        cmon larry,


        Who you trying to convince with your nonsensical floyd is the best threads?


        The Rest of the World? Or yourself?

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #34
          Originally posted by The_Sandman
          The reason for that is because Frazier, Liston, Duran, Hearns were competition for Ali and Leonard. They were wars. And to be honest, I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone giving Floyd a hard time. Maybe Sergio at 154.
          Yea but they were wars because the fights actually happened. THey didnt simply say "oh they wont give me a hard time why fight them" like somebody

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          • daggum
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            #35
            Originally posted by The_Sandman
            The reason for that is because Frazier, Liston, Duran, Hearns were competition for Ali and Leonard. They were wars. And to be honest, I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone giving Floyd a hard time. Maybe Sergio at 154.
            it doesn't matter what you think. what matters is what happens when they fight. you think ali thought frazier could beat him? when he was picking himself off the canvas he realized this guy was for real. floyd won't even get into the ring to find out if these guys are on his level.
            Last edited by daggum; 01-30-2012, 01:31 PM.

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            • Brother Jay
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              #36
              Wars can't happen when only one side lives up to the agreed upon terms.

              You can't talk all types of **** passed that point but Pacquiao is the one doing the double talking.

              "I will take a pay cut to make the fight happen" - he won't

              "I will take the USADA and any other test to make the fight happen" - he won't

              "I will fight anywhere" - now Vegas is a problem

              "I will fight anytime" - now May 5th is a problem


              What has Mayweather been asking for from the beginning? Random USADA testing up until the day.

              No double talk. Just Floyd stepping up while Manny let's Arum make more excuses for him. Even *******s are saying that nowadays. One thing after another.

              First Roach and Ariza say that Manny is going to bring dynamite against Marquez, but he winds up bringing a sparkler to the fight.

              Now Manny won't fight Floyd and is looking to get anyone that he thinks he can beat. Including a rematch with a guy who he has no reason to fight again: Miguel Cotto.

              Its pretty fcuking sad.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #37
                Originally posted by Brother Jay
                Wars can't happen when only one side lives up to the agreed upon terms.

                You can't talk all types of **** passed that point but Pacquiao is the one doing the double talking.

                "I will take a pay cut to make the fight happen" - he won't

                "I will take the USADA and any other test to make the fight happen" - he won't

                "I will fight anywhere" - now Vegas is a problem

                "I will fight anytime" - now May 5th is a problem


                What has Mayweather been asking for from the beginning? Random USADA testing up until the day.

                No double talk. Just Floyd stepping up while Manny let's Arum make more excuses for him. Even *******s are saying that nowadays. One thing after another.

                First Roach and Ariza say that Manny is going to bring dynamite against Marquez, but he winds up bringing a sparkler to the fight.

                Now Manny won't fight Floyd and is looking to get anyone that he thinks he can beat. Including a rematch with a guy who he has no reason to fight again: Miguel Cotto.

                Its pretty fcuking sad.
                Floyd did just say "No 50-50" so he isn't without blame either. Unless you are going to defend Floyd flip flopping on the purse split now.

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                • Scary
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                  #38
                  Lots of Floyd hate in this thread. Give the man the probs he deserves. Floyd never been knocked down (except the broken hand and Zab threading on his shoe).

                  And what's all that about going to war? I mean, if he can win fights without being hit in the head in boxing, that is truly magnificent, so go away with that he has to have wars on his resume.

                  I do agree though, that he has been cherrypicking, but the biggest ducking has been of Cotto, Pac and Margarito - But that cant overshadow his accomplishments completely. You gotta give him some respect, whereas some people give him way too much respect, I'd say he definitely deserves to be ranked as the top 2 greatest of this era and easily top50 ever. But he needs Pac before it's a fact that he's on the slide to really have a chance to bust open top10.

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                  • ModernTalking
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The_Sandman
                    The reason for that is because Frazier, Liston, Duran, Hearns were competition for Ali and Leonard. They were wars. And to be honest, I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone giving Floyd a hard time. Maybe Sergio at 154.
                    I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone (Margarito) giving Floyd a hard time. What these fighters have in common is that they have all partially retired PBF Pu55y Boy Floyd.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ModernTalking
                      I don't see Pacquiao, Cotto, and anyone (Margarito) giving Floyd a hard time. What these fighters have in common is that they have all partially retired PBF Pu55y Boy Floyd.
                      Pac has ducked Floyd like he ducked Mosley , Arum is waiting for 2 things , Floyd to get old and shot like Mosley or its Pacs last fight then he will be fed to Floyd .

                      Manny is living proof how far BS will fly in this world .

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